Working past finishing hours

DiscruntledShopworker

I work in a well known sports shop, I'm 17 and am on minimum wage (£3.68/per hour). I mainly work 4 hour shifts, but at the end of the shift we have to ask the managers to leave, and often we are kept 10-15 minutes past our time of finishing. When speaking to the managers about working this extra time, I've been told we do not get paid for it and it is classed as "unpaid overtime", and they can legally keep us for 15 minutes longer than our shift.

I've worked there for almost a year, and it has started to tick me off, and only now have I thought to check whether it is correct/legal. Any advice or information would be appreciated.

jimbo83

To be honest, a lot of people work beyond their contracted hours. If you were being made to stay for an hour or something I would say that is unfair due to you being part time. But 10-15 minutes?!

Perhaps contact the CAB if you wanted clarity.

annie1975_2

DiscruntledShopworker wrote: »

I work in a well known sports shop, I'm 17 and am on minimum wage (£3.68/per hour). I mainly work 4 hour shifts, but at the end of the shift we have to ask the managers to leave, and often we are kept 10-15 minutes past our time of finishing. When speaking to the managers about working this extra time, I've been told we do not get paid for it and it is classed as "unpaid overtime", and they can legally keep us for 15 minutes longer than our shift.

I've worked there for almost a year, and it has started to tick me off, and only now have I thought to check whether it is correct/legal. Any advice or information would be appreciated.

If you are kept 15 minutes for 4 nights its an hr a week.(times that by 48 weeks a year its 48 hrs..For no money..
Do they treat other employees like this?..Cheeky Gits.The attitude today is they think you should be grateful for having a job,and dont expect you to say anything.

annie1975_2

jimbo83 wrote: »

To be honest, a lot of people work beyond their contracted hours. If you were being made to stay for an hour or something I would say that is unfair due to you being part time. But 10-15 minutes?!

Perhaps contact the CAB if you wanted clarity.

I dont see why you should have to stay any longer if your not getting paid.I certainly wouldn't..Its alright for these managers on their fab salary's,and paying crap money to everyone else.

theoretica

If you are on minimum wage they are not permitted to have you do unpaid overtime as it takes you below the minimumwage on average for hours worked. However, you risk their reaction to your pointing this out...

Grimbal

DiscruntledShopworker wrote: »

I'm 17 and am on minimum wage (£3.68/per hour).
often we are kept 10-15 minutes past our time of finishing.
it has started to tick me off

Just a thought: maybe showing a bit of dedication & willingness would allow you to progress in any future career ? I'm in a job that doesn't pay overtime yet expects us to get the job done. If I walked out just because I'd done the allotted hours rather than what needed to be finished, I'd soon be given my marching orders. try and think about it as "short term pain for long term gain" perhaps ?

Osarkon

DiscruntledShopworker wrote: »

I work in a well known sports shop, I'm 17 and am on minimum wage (£3.68/per hour). I mainly work 4 hour shifts, but at the end of the shift we have to ask the managers to leave.

Have to ask to leave?

If your shift is 12-4, leave at 4. You shouldn't need to ask. If they want you to stay on, they need to come and ask you before you leave, not the other way around.

McKneff

Go get your coat at 4pm.

Pick up your cards at 4.15.

I know it isnt fair, but they can get rid of you for no reason at all in your firstyear of employment. Think how many there are in the queue just waiting to take over from you.

Daedalus

Grimbal wrote: »

Just a thought: maybe showing a bit of dedication & willingness would allow you to progress in any future career ? I'm in a job that doesn't pay overtime yet expects us to get the job done. If I walked out just because I'd done the allotted hours rather than what needed to be finished, I'd soon be given my marching orders. try and think about it as "short term pain for long term gain" perhaps ?

They are 17 working 4 hour shifts, it is likely they are in school/college, in which the 48 hours unpaid work they are doing would be better spent on school work and would see a far greater return.

There is a massive difference between a career job and a NMW job. People on NMW are dogs bodies, they are not hired for their skill, it is a position where 'impressing' your boss will do very very little.

Daedalus

McKneff wrote: »

Go get your coat at 4pm.

Pick up your cards at 4.15.

I know it isnt fair, but they can get rid of you for no reason at all in your fist 2 years of employment. Think how many there are in the queue just waiting to take over from you.

Small claims court for unpaid work. The court will award it and then the company will be in massive trouble for paying below NMW.

If the job is just for spending money and is helpful then stand up for yourself, if you need the money then you just have to grin and bear it, sue them when you leave.

Grimbal

Daedalus wrote: »

There is a massive difference between a career job and a NMW job. People on NMW are dogs bodies, they are not hired for their skill, it is a position where 'impressing' your boss will do very very little.

Maybe NMW at the moment, but that's not to say that a bit of hard work & willingness wouldn't pull them up out of the crowd & improve their prospects surely? My place of work hires people on all pay scales and their wage reflects their aptitude, ability & results produced. If they have improved themselves over the last year (both/either in terms of "results" and "behaviours", their wage is adjusted accordingly

If you have a dogsbody mentality, you'll always be a dogsbody.