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I have had a quote for a 16 panel system, using Conergy panels each having a 245 output, inc inverter and optimiser total cost £10,800. .
Our house is SE facing with no shading.
I have a short cooling off period.
I can't find much information about these panels and now wonder if I have made the best choice. Please advise.
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  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    k66 wrote: »
    I have had a quote for a 16 panel system, using Conergy panels each having a 245 output, inc inverter and optimiser total cost £10,800. .
    Our house is SE facing with no shading.
    I have a short cooling off period.
    I can't find much information about these panels and now wonder if I have made the best choice. Please advise.

    10 grand?

    They're having a laaaf.

    Somewhere around 8 would be high, for a 4kW system.
  • legoman62
    legoman62 Posts: 4,970 Forumite
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    My local supplier says a 4kW system(16 panels) should come in at£6000.00ish so your quote is way too expensive
    16 Sanyo Hit 250s.4kWp SMA 3.8kWp inverter. SW roof. 28° pitch. Minimal shade. Nov 2011 install. Hybrid car. Ripple Kirk Hill. N.E Lincs Coast.
  • Martyn1981
    Martyn1981 Posts: 15,367 Forumite
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    Well I think I owe you and Conergy an apology. My first thought was that the name was a joke amalgamation - Oops!

    Quick google, proper company, and the 'Noir Edition' panels are quite sexy. Plus a 12 year warranty, not bad. But there are many more fish in the sea.

    Anyways, back to real life, that's a huge price. Not sure what '.. and optimiser' means. Could be one of those household voltage thingies, which I don't think help much, or maybe individual panel power optimisers, like my SolarEdge system has to help with bad shading. Do you have any shading issues?

    I think Roger's right, that £8k would be high, so forget £10.8k. The lowest prices are the banners you often see on sites, perhaps £5k (£4,995 or so), but I've always doubted whether anyone actually gets those prices. So close to £6k would be a very nice deal. (Edit: Legoman beat me to it!)

    The scheme rules mean you must have a 7 day cooling off period. This rule is so strong, that to breach it you'd probably have to write a letter explaining why your understanding is so good, that you don't need it (don't do that).

    Keep shopping, the quotes will tumble.

    Mart.

    PS Have you been given numbers on potential generation, income, savings etc? Are you comfortable with the information?
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • k66
    k66 Posts: 354 Forumite
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    PS Have you been given numbers on potential generation, income, savings etc? Are you comfortable with the information?[/QUOTE]
    Thanks for the replies so far, I am comfortable with the figures just the price alarms me.

    Which would be your preferred choice of panels if you were buying a system now?
    We have a large SSE facing roof at a tilt of 28 degrees and live near the Wirral. We want to buy quality.
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  • Martyn1981
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    Hiya K66, not sure if anyone is going to want to go near that question.

    There are literally hundreds of manufacturers, and each will have many panel models, which will again have various power options.

    Each installer will probably have recommendations, but these just might be the ones that there supplier prefers, or has a ship load coming in.

    Best to get quotes, then do a bit of googling on the panels as quoted. For instance, a quick search on Conergy and I found those 245W panels for £131+VAT retail. That info is pretty useless, but combine it with some shop searches, and those panels are average price. Again, doesn't tell you much, but at least you start to get a feeling.

    Sharps are common as they are widely available, YingLi's are reasonable price and and again common as they are one of the biggest. But you pretty much pays your money and takes your chance. I guess in 10 years we'll all have stories and advice for you - can you wait? ;)

    If you've got a large roof, and can fit 16 panels on it (roughly 1m by 1.7m each) then the PV panel world is your oyster.

    Inverters - SMA are the big boys, but there are several big names that come up a lot, Aurora, Fronius, SolarEdge and several more.

    Generation, as you are roughly level with Sheffield (where the official figures are set) quotes should be about right. But I'd guesstimate about 900kWh's of generation for each kWp of install. So 3,600kWh's hopefully for a 4kWp install, if you've little to no shading. If you are paranoid, like me, knock another 5% to 10% off and make sure you're happy with the numbers before proceeding. That way, anymore is a bonus.

    Appreciate this doesn't really answer your question, but it might be easier to work backwards, that is, get a good quote, then check for any views or horror stories on the suggested kit.

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • k66
    k66 Posts: 354 Forumite
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    Thanks Mart it is very useful as I am on a steep learning curve, we do have a very large SSE roof at a 28 degree angle. I'm getting excited about putting the panels on and want to get it right.
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  • k66 wrote: »
    I have had a quote for a 16 panel system, using Conergy panels each having a 245 output, inc inverter and optimiser total cost £10,800. .
    Our house is SE facing with no shading.
    I have a short cooling off period.
    I can't find much information about these panels and now wonder if I have made the best choice. Please advise.

    Quick answer is get the h*** out of this deal. I was quoted around that figure in Oct 2011 for similar size while FIT's were worth having. Can you post what was quoted as your forecasted return and calculated pay back time. If you are on a short fuse regarding "cooling off", you would need to be very quick, on this thread you will get an honest and first hand experienced feedback from users experience. To be taken in the faith that they are intended, and not financial advice, as probably none of us are in a position to give it. Having said that, read https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3853851 and you may gleen information of how things go...at the end of the day, do what you think best. Work back from the link;)
    2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
    Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax: B)

    Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).
  • Martyn1981
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    k66 wrote: »
    Thanks Mart it is very useful as I am on a steep learning curve, we do have a very large SSE roof at a 28 degree angle. I'm getting excited about putting the panels on and want to get it right.

    Just a thought, have you cast an eye over this thread, post 1:-

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3872445

    It's been compiled by loads of PV'ers. But it does have a big hole in the middle, since it starts you off, then suggests you do exactly what you've done and ask for advice, before helping with post install suggestions.

    But it might be worth a read just to support that learning curve, if you haven't already.

    Small point, the current tariff won't change till the end of Jan (1/2/13) and you won't miss a lot of generation in the next month or so, so don't rush. Wait till you're sure.

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • k66
    k66 Posts: 354 Forumite
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    We signed up yesterday and have now given notice of cancellation by email and will send the letter by recorded delivery too. We like the idea of solar energy so will do even more reading on the subject. Cheers for your help.
    :hello:
  • Oscargrouch
    Oscargrouch Posts: 4,393 Forumite
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    edited 17 November 2012 at 11:51PM
    k66 wrote: »
    We signed up yesterday and have now given notice of cancellation by email and will send the letter by recorded delivery too. We like the idea of solar energy so will do even more reading on the subject. Cheers for your help.

    Unqualified opinion: I think you have made the right decision. PV is great; but the figures have to work out for you. Keep in touch with this thread I posted earlier, I can assure you, their are some really sensible people on there; I always think of PV as a 'big boys train set' watching the meter going around! Check you PM's. :A
    2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
    Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax: B)

    Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).
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