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Help me make my Bread better!

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  • Crush a couple of vitamin "C" tablets (plain ones) and put them in the mix.

    Salt kills the yeast, try using 50% less and see what happens.
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  • andygb
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    As Badrick said in post#3, I make a starter with my yeast, water and sugar in a bowl for 20 minutes.
    I then mix the flour and salt in another bowl.
    When the yeast has a nice, frothy head, then I combine the lot.
    I also prefer leaving it for about 20 hours in a cool place for the first proving, then gently form it into loaf/baguette shapes (do not knock out the air), leaving it to rise and then baking it.
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    Le73Uq86Uv wrote: »
    Crush a couple of vitamin "C" tablets (plain ones) and put them in the mix.

    Salt kills the yeast, try using 50% less and see what happens.

    You can buy vitamin c powder. I've been using it recently, and to be perfectly honest it's made no difference. What does make a difference is when I stop being a lazy so and so and knead it properly! :rotfl:
  • andygb
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    Le73Uq86Uv wrote: »
    Crush a couple of vitamin "C" tablets (plain ones) and put them in the mix.

    Salt kills the yeast, try using 50% less and see what happens.


    Salt will only kill the yeast if it is not dispersed in the flour. If you keep the salt/flour seperate from the water/sugar/yeast and then combine them once the yeast has activated then there will not be a problem.:)
  • andygb
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    Wow thanks for all your replies, I think my last mix was too wet and I didn't let it rise for long enough. Leaving it overnight is a good idea. Also dissolving the salt in water .....so many ideas to try. Thank you all.

    I just toasted some of my bread and it was horrible! Really tough with a very close texture....yuck!


    You should be dissolving the sugar (if you use it) in water with the yeast (in order to start the yeast activating) - not the salt.:)
  • andygb
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    I have never heard of using any type of tablet (vitamin C or otherwise) in breadmaking - genuine bakers would be shocked at this.
    In France - where IMO they bake the best bread, they would probably be arrested for using additives.
  • pineapple
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    edited 17 November 2012 at 12:09AM
    andygb wrote: »
    As Badrick said in post#3, I make a starter with my yeast, water and sugar in a bowl for 20 minutes.
    I then mix the flour and salt in another bowl.
    When the yeast has a nice, frothy head, then I combine the lot.
    I also prefer leaving it for about 20 hours in a cool place for the first proving, then gently form it into loaf/baguette shapes (do not knock out the air), leaving it to rise and then baking it.
    This is how I make mine.
    But I make 'milk bread' - I only use a small amount of water in the yeast mixture and top it up with milk when mixing with the flour. I also add a 'slurp' of olive oil! I don't measure the liquid - you get to know when the dough feels right. The trick is to just add it in tiny amounts when it's almost there - ie mix sticking together and coming away from the sides of the bowl.
    I only prove mine once and it rises fine.. Once kneaded I cut it up and shape into bread rolls and leave to prove in situ on the baking tray.
    It's always really yummy. The only time I had a failure was when I cut down the kneading time and it was horrible and heavy.
    Apparently you have kneaded it enough if the dough springs back up when you prod it with your finger! ;)
    Re the vitamin C, it's quite a common recommendation - more so for wholemeal bread.

    I'm experimenting now with different combos of wholemeal, white and spelt. Going to try some Einkorn flour too.
  • I use fresh yeast or the slow granules stuff you have to activate. It's not hard - mix it with the warm water and sugar first, keeping the salt in with the flour - and makes it possible to fit in yet another cuppa break whilst waiting for it to froth up :)
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  • 500g flour
    350 g water
    7g dried yeast/10g fresh
    7g salt.

    Makes a lovey wet dough which rises beautifully.

    I use the slap and fold method not the knead method - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osmVnrhMhfE

    You need a flat scraper to scrape the wet bits up for the first few minutes - slap and fold for 15 mins, then leave to prove. Then shape without knocking all the air out [really, why?] and leave another hour to rise. Then bake in hot oven with tray of hot water in the bottom. Don't forget to score the top so that it can expand.
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  • Justamum
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    andygb wrote: »
    You should be dissolving the sugar (if you use it) in water with the yeast (in order to start the yeast activating) - not the salt.:)

    I don't put any sugar in my bread unless I'm making sweet bread, and I always dissolve the salt in the water.
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