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VCS Ltd v HMRC - Court of Appeal on 4th or 5th May 2013
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It will be interesting to see what parts/points in the initial judgement are being appealed. There's the VAT bit, which is the essence of what it's all about. But there's also the issue of who can form contracts and who can sue for trespass - related issues, but not the same. As we saw in the Somerfield/PE case, the appeal only addressed some points from the original case, anything not mentioned/overruled therefore stands.The 164 page Judgment in the case of Parking Eye v Sommerfield also made clear that there is NO contract between the private parking company and the motorist. Sommerfield DID NOT appeal on this point.
VCS Ltd is altogether different because, the implications of the ruling from the Upper Tribunal is that VCS Ltd are liable to pay HMRC for VAT going back as far back as 2005. The amount payable ( plus penalties etc) could be staggering.....
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I can't see them appealing on who can form a contract as its not the issue, what has that got to do with it ? This has got to be for the VAT IMO , and that is what interests the revenue, I can't see vcs winning this at all, these judges don't often judge against the vat manExcel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?0 -
I can't see them appealing on who can form a contract as its not the issue, what has that got to do with it ? This has got to be for the VAT IMO , and that is what interests the revenue, I can't see vcs winning this at all, these judges don't often judge against the vat man
Jaffa cake anyone?0 -
I'll be bringing a flask (a hip one possibly) and some popcorn.
Shall I bag a load of seats at the front of the gallery?Je Suis Cecil.0 -
There is nothing wrong in musing, idly, about the potential financial impact of the ruling(s) on VCS/Excel/SR-S but, as a careful perusal of the Tribunal judgments will reveal, VCS deposited sufficient monies with the court to cover their potential indebtedness. There will be no big hit in the future unless the Court of Appeal find some other avenue through which it might be extracted.
Counsel that represented VCS in the appeal to the Upper Tribunal is regarded as one of the country's leading lights in VAT matters. One wonders where else they have to go?
By the way I already have my seat booked. Afterwards at the George.My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016).
For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com0 -
Eagle Eyed Andy over on Pepipoo has just highlighted that those two dates are a Saturday and a Sunday!
Methinks this story may not be entirely kosher.Je Suis Cecil.0 -
The_Seeker wrote: »Down with VCS Ltd
Who are you, suddenly prolific with one liner posts on this board? PPC smell?PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
you certainly have an agenda on this forum dont you?The_Seeker wrote: »Don't be facesious. I constantly park on private land without paying because I won't fund the private parking companies. I know it's wrong, but that's why I won't reveal my location and name. You don't know if I'm licking at your feet at the shore of Sussex or am I hundreds of miles away!
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