Buying a Hybrid or Electric car - advice required please

johnnyreggae

Yolina wrote: »

I guess it's something people will get used to and learn to look out for eventually.

No they won't : not as long as there are Ambulance-chaser lawyers around.......

smitchy73

bloghog wrote: »

The batteries on these cars weigh a LOT. Lugging that weight around uses a lot of energy and the battery life is not that long (5 years) and replacement batteries are £1,000's.
On the other hand gliding around in near silence must be nice

Yeah batteries might weigh alot, but it's not that much more than an Internal Combustion Engine.
The whole battery pack doesn't fail all at once, they are all made up of battery cells, which can be replaced individually.

Silence is golden my friend!

mkirkby

smitchy73 wrote: »

Yeah batteries might weigh alot, but it's not that much more than an Internal Combustion Engine.
The whole battery pack doesn't fail all at once, they are all made up of battery cells, which can be replaced individually.

Silence is golden my friend!

You are Joking right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Roadster - 1,235 kg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Elise - 755 kg

Both essentially the same car, made in the same factory. One electric, one petrol.

& I'm willing to bet the batteries don't get anywhere near 100,000 miles....

Long way to go yet my friend...


Apart from that, hybrids are only at an advantage in the city where they can use braking to generate electricity. On the open road the battery power will run out very quickly resulting in the whole journey being made under fossil fuel. We met a couple last year being very smug about reaching 'just over 50mpg' in their prius in their 100 mile journey.

We managed 56mpg; in an old Xantia; running on veg oil.



The future is new-tech lightweight powerful batteries or hydrogen fuel cells, not this dead-end technology. Just a marketing ploy

Yolina

mkirkby wrote: »

I'm willing to bet the batteries don't get anywhere near 100,000 miles....

Well Toyota hybrids now come with an 8 year/100,000 miles warranty on the battery so I think they certainly expect it to last at least that long
Also seen taxi drivers on forums reporting no issues with their Prius at 140,000+ miles

Apart from that, hybrids are only at an advantage in the city where they can use braking to generate electricity.

That's exactly why I got a Yaris hybrid... I do more than half of my annual mileage around London (and no, we're not talking about just 2 miles trips to the shops!)

Not this dead-end technology. Just a marketing ploy

I am happy with my dead-end tech marketing ploy :rotfl::rotfl:

mkirkby

Yolina wrote: »

Well Toyota hybrids now come with an 8 year/100,000 miles warranty on the battery so I think they certainly expect it to last at least that long
Also seen taxi drivers on forums reporting no issues with their Prius at 140,000+ miles



That's exactly why I got a Yaris hybrid... I do more than half of my annual mileage around London (and no, we're not talking about just 2 miles trips to the shops!)

I am happy with my dead-end tech marketing ploy :rotfl::rotfl:

You are happy now and rightfully so but in a few years they will probably cease to exist having been replaced by the tech I mentioned above. That's what I might by dead end.

& as for the batteries, my comment was only really in the context of full battery power cars made using existing tech. Your batteries have a full engine to back them up so won't get used as much.

(& Ok I concede, the 'marketing ploy' statement can really only be applicable to those gullible enough to buy them for non-stop-start driving)

grdmitro

bloghog wrote: »

I am not sure that the technology is there yet, close but a modern diesel or petrol can work out more economical. The batteries on these cars weigh a LOT. Lugging that weight around uses a lot of energy and the battery life is not that long (5 years) and replacement batteries are £1,000's.
On the other hand gliding around in near silence must be nice

battery life is not an issue
it depends on how it's used, bigger battery = lower current draw from each cell
+liquid cooling for optimal temperature

8 years/unlimited miles warranty on battery for Tesla Model S 85kw version
link: www_teslamotors_com/models/options

the only question is price, which is fine for early adopters, we'll see what battery prices are in 3-5 years





85kw is for 256miles+

A._Badger

grdmitro wrote: »

battery life is not an issue
it depends on how it's used, bigger battery = lower current draw from each cell
+liquid cooling for optimal temperature

8 years/unlimited miles warranty on battery for Tesla Model S 85kw version
link: www_teslamotors_com/models/options

the only question is price, which is fine for early adopters, we'll see what battery prices are in 3-5 years





85kw is for 256miles+

Always assuming Tesla stays in business, of course.

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