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Estate agent To Let signs / boards
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Close to me an estate agent nailed a board to the pillar of a brand-new brick wall neighbouring the property for sale. If I was the neighbour I'd be fuming. Most estate agents near me contract out the boards to a sign agency but their fixing methods are crude to say the least, and unlawful/criminal at their worst. The regulations state "Any board advertising property for sale or to let must be displayed on the property to which it relates".0
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art_for_arts_sake wrote: »The regulations state "Any board advertising property for sale or to let must be displayed on the property to which it relates".
That could be difficult for the 15 or so properties which are my 'neighbours,' albeit 100metres or more down a track. Their piece of owned roadway ends short of the public road, so technically they could not advertise.
In the real world, the sign board people use the council verge, but not the one in front of my house, because if the sign goes there, it mysteriously ends up in the hedge a day or so later!
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Bear in mind that some agents do not erect their own signs, but use a third party, who may deal with signs for a number of local agents. It's certainly the case where I live.
Doesn't excuse the agents from liability for their tradesman erecting an unauthorised sign and damaging the property to boot. OP should take it up with the agent, agent should take it up with their sub-contractor. Sub-contractor is not working for the OP!
One of the sign erectors our local group of agents uses looks about 12, surprised he's even old enough to have a driving license. He tried to nail a "for sale" sign on the wooden wall-mounted entrance board on a block of flats, and pulled the whole entrance board down (it was my flat they were trying to sell). Freeholder went absolutely ballistic, but successfully sued them for price of a brand new entrance board. I went up the following day myself with a for sale board, checked with freeholder and fitted it to the outside wall with 2 masonary nails, no visible damage at all and in a much more prominant place than the original!
Same guy put up a board in my MIL's neighbours garden - she watched him and said he literally pushed it into the ground, no hammer, no stake and it blew over in a light breeze the same day. If the agents want to present a professional service, they should not employ cowboys to work on their behalf!0 -
Strictly speaking, no, they couldn't. The council could choose to enforce the regulations but in practice most choose to turn a blind eye. You should also only have one board per property but I've seen as many as three agents' boards outside.That could be difficult for the 15 or so properties which are my 'neighbours,' albeit 100metres or more down a track. Their piece of owned roadway ends short of the public road, so technically they could not advertise.
In the real world, the sign board people use the council verge, but not the one in front of my house, because if the sign goes there, it mysteriously ends up in the hedge a day or so later!0 -
Its easy to be wise after the event, but I've only learned from experience to specify 'No boards' when contacting (orally or in writing) with letting agents (or come to that, when selling). The trouble is, letting agents see these as free publicity so are desparate to get them up. One local agent really irritates me by sticking them on the communal areas of housing estates or larger multi-occupied blocks and leaving them there for months, I'm sure, in defiance of the regs.
And to rub salt in the wounds - when our kids sold (STC) the other day, the agent slapped a SOLD sign up without permission, while they were away for the weekend househunting for the new one- which might, or might not have been a trigger for the theft of the pots and planters we'd loaned them as a cynical bit of kerb-appeal window-dressing! Still- bless- they got a good price and if people are so scammy they're prepared to nick a few quids worth of plants, we just have to move on...
And it would be cynical of me to object wholesale to SALE or LET boards. We loved living on an estate which banned them til a year ago but only discovered our new dream home by chance when driving past the ENORMOUS (and probably illegal) pair of SALE signs just outside our area of online searching0 -
Bear in mind that some agents do not erect their own signs, but use a third party, who may deal with signs for a number of local agents. It's certainly the case where I live.
It's not beyond the whit of man to communicate with the chosen company and ask them to only use cable ties or not to screw/ bolt/ nail them to pieces of wood/ concrete/ stone or only on fences but not buildings themselves.
The other culprit is Sky. We have a couple of dishes that breach covenants in the long lease attached to the back of our building. I doubt they will be paying to repair the blown render or frost damage to bricks, should they cause any problems. :mad:Declutterbug-in-progress.⭐️⭐️⭐️ ⭐️⭐️0 -
Doesn't excuse the agents from liability for their tradesman erecting an unauthorised sign and damaging the property to boot. OP should take it up with the agent, agent should take it up with their sub-contractor. Sub-contractor is not working for the OP!
Far from suggesting that the legal position is other than you say, I was just pointing out that the guys in the office may well be one step removed from the erection process, if you'll pardon the expression. This might influence the OP's initial approach to them.It's not beyond the whit of man to communicate with the chosen company and ask them to only use cable ties or not to screw/ bolt/ nail them to pieces of wood/ concrete/ stone or only on fences but not buildings themselves.
I'm sure it isn't, but again, I'm not making apologies for anyone carrying out work in a foolish or thoughtless manner.0 -
The other culprit is Sky. We have a couple of dishes that breach covenants in the long lease attached to the back of our building. I doubt they will be paying to repair the blown render or frost damage to bricks, should they cause any problems. :mad:
No, the tenants/leaseholders should pay - you can hardly expect a Sky installer to have a knowledge of customer's leases.0
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