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Ask a StepChange (formerly CCCS) counsellor a bankruptcy question

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  • fermi
    fermi Posts: 40,542 Forumite
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    Last year over the whole of England/Wales

    Bankruptcies = 20,322

    IPAs (voluntary agreements) = 3,768

    IPOs (forced by the OR/courts) = 39

    Those stats show just how rare it is for the OR to force things with an IPO, and how rare it is for them to be granted by the courts.
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  • Faunus
    Faunus Posts: 6 Forumite
    I am really surprised by those figures. Less than a quarter even have an IPA! I guess that's because there is deemed to be no surplus. Maybe we should argue the things the OR declined on our expenses?
    School holidays £30 per month - not a lot to keep 3 children entertained
    Social/sports membership £30 month- CAB stated he is allowed a life during bankruptcy and this is an area to cut back on if there are unexpected expenses.
    Christmas / Birthdays £30 month for 3 children in education 10, 15, 18.
    Mobiles x 2 £22 month (children - declined as not living with us but court order states we must provide one of them)

    Thanks again for your help - I'm still doing the other reading you suggested :)
  • Faunus
    Faunus Posts: 6 Forumite
    The reading suggests some items are worth arguing for, that's great. It also tells us there are things we could have claimed for but haven't even thought of.

    I can't access the Household expenditure sheet (HES) via the links, is there somewhere else I can access this please?

    This help has really been invaluable - thank you
  • Faunus
    Faunus Posts: 6 Forumite
    It's OK, I think I have found it - Household expenditure sheet (HES). As a new member I am not allowed to share the link though, sorry.
  • StepChange_James
    StepChange_James Posts: 861 Organisation Representative
    Thanks to Fermi for answering Faunus' questions while we were out of the office over the weekend.

    Faunus - if you've any further questions then feel free to post them.
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity (formerly CCCS) and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy

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  • pdrskint
    pdrskint Posts: 100 Forumite
    I was made bancrupt in 1994 my pension policies were handed back to me with no realistic value, now i can cash these policies what rights has official receiver to these policies, and doesnt my wife have a right to 50%,?
    They already took other pensions and cashed them, again wasnt my wife entitled
    to half ? Any help appreciated
  • StepChange_James
    StepChange_James Posts: 861 Organisation Representative
    pdrskint wrote: »
    I was made bancrupt in 1994 my pension policies were handed back to me with no realistic value, now i can cash these policies what rights has official receiver to these policies, and doesnt my wife have a right to 50%,?
    They already took other pensions and cashed them, again wasnt my wife entitled
    to half ? Any help appreciated

    Hi there,

    The rules on pensions are a bit different for bankruptcy orders made before 2000 than they are now. So pensions were often treated as assets in bankruptcy back then, which sounds like what's happened in your case.

    What rights the Official Receiver has will depend on how they dealt with your pensions back when you went bankrupt.

    There's some general information about how pensions are dealt with for pre-2000 bankrutpcies, which you might find useful: https://www.insolvencydirect.bis.gov.uk/casehelpmanual/P/Pensions/Part2.htm.

    You may find you can get more information about this by speaking to the Insolvency Service. Here are their contact details:https://www.gov.uk/the-insolvency-service.

    Kind regards

    James
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity (formerly CCCS) and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy

    If money worries are keeping you awake, read Paul's success story at Need to Sleep

  • Tomchris
    Tomchris Posts: 8 Forumite
    Hi I wonder if you can advise me on whether we can cancel our life insurance policies after we are discharged from bankruptcy? We haven't been in a position to buy them back, so we wondered if we can cancel them and then get new policies once discharged? Thanks.
  • StepChange_James
    StepChange_James Posts: 861 Organisation Representative
    Tomchris wrote: »
    Hi I wonder if you can advise me on whether we can cancel our life insurance policies after we are discharged from bankruptcy? We haven't been in a position to buy them back, so we wondered if we can cancel them and then get new policies once discharged? Thanks.

    Hi there,

    Thanks for posting.

    You're probably most likely to get the correct answer to this question by speaking to your Official Receiver's (OR) office and checking with them.

    If I've understood your question it sounds like the benefits of the insurance policy would fall within the bankruptcy estate and you wouldn't be able to get the proceeds. Assuming this is the case it would be harsh for you to be expected to continue to pay into a policy that you're not going to get any benefit from.

    The OR should be able to confirm this, with the benefit of knowing the details of your case.

    Kind regards

    James
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity (formerly CCCS) and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy

    If money worries are keeping you awake, read Paul's success story at Need to Sleep

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