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VJsmum

mardatha wrote: »

This isn't PC at all but then neither am I - and it's just my personal old-bat view ok? - but I think people should stop listening to "experts" and start using their commonsense. Parents are scared to do anything at all now in case it's bad for their kids. No sun, no butter, no salt, no sugar, no nothing!
Why not have a wee bit of everything without going over the top or without cutting it out entirely? Why not do what our grannies did and just have all things in moderation? A bit of lard will not kill you. A day past a sell-by-date will not kill you. A tiny bit of salt on an egg will not kill you. 15 min playing in the sun will not kill your kids. etc etc.
All these experts trumpet one thing one week then the next they change their minds and decide ooh yes it's ok after all

I agree too - especially as many of those who probably should listen to experts are the ones who don't anyway. School dinners always got me - kids weren't allowed this that and the other in a packed lunch but were served some form of fried potato every day. Not chips, oh no, chips were only allowed once a week - so on other days they had smiley faces, croquettes, roast, mash steeped in marg (or worse, smash!). I'd rather the kids had the odd pack of crisps than most of that - but crisps weren't allowed. I'd rather my kids had full sugar drinks than that awful chemical sweetner in "no added sugar" drinks. But they have always been told that they can't be pigs. One pack of crisps is plenty - even if their mate is allowed 4 (a day!!) If they are that hungry they eat a sandwich. NEither has a filling (yet - touch wood!) and though DD is a little overweight, DS - isn't which isn't fair as DD eats extremely healthily, I can't remember the last time she ate crisps or chocolate.

My mum always said "everything in moderation - including moderation"

kidcat

I totally agree its all about being sensible and sensible appears to have resigned a very long time ago.

Am so cold I cannot feel my toes and that is with the heating on, a duvet, thermals, jumpers etc. My stomach doesnt feel quite right so I am thinking I have caught the "bug" oh joy! After the debacle of santa dash in the pouring rain this morning and the associated disasters today am wishing I had never got up.

DS8 has just announced he only wants one thing for Christmas as he doesnt want to be greedy, ahhh sweetie, except the one gift he now wants wasnt on any blinking previous list grrrrr!

Possession

katieowl wrote: »

Yeah well you get what you pay for don't you...I bet he could pull your brains out down your nose, or line your garden obelisks up with Orion!!!

I swap cake for Goats cheese - on a weekly basis!

Kate

Kate such useful attributes, I don't know why I didn't think of that earlier when I was grrring about why he can't even put a toilet seat on properly.
It's raining here too and slightly less cold, but has been yukkily dark all day.

bluebag

savingqueen.

Things like that really annoy me, as you say not everyone has £60 to blow. Listening to my OH and what he says about his co-workers ( all on pretty good wages btw) they are just about living paycheck to paycheck. Any drop in overtime and they are sunk.

I think the New Year may see some with pretty painful financial hangovers. Somehow I don't think your OH will find sitting on his own in the office half as embarrasing as having the bailiffs call.

Most of us on here are pretty aware that the economy is in a mess, but many choose to just ignore it and carry as usual.
There is about to be a rude awakening.

Pooky

Kidkat, hope it isn't the bug, it's doing the rounds at DD2s school and a lot of her friends are off with it. We all had it a few years back, one Christmas, felt so I'll for days and my mum was posting supplies of loo rolls and bleach through the cat flap so she didn't chance getting it.

Right, I'm all set for tomorrow, all the food I could precook has been done, my best dinner service is out, the house is tidy and I've not forgotten anything (well not that's come to mind yet).

I have however forgotten to get anything out for dinner so I'm ordering Chinese and that's that.

Took cat to the vets this morning who was very puzzled and thought he had a bit of someone's tooth in his gum, when he gave it a tug it turned out to be a chicken bone wedged across the roof of his mouth and stuck in both sides of his teeth. Bless him he was so relieved to have it taken out. He climbed up to give me a cuddle (the cat, not the vet) and the vet was amazed to see him stand on his back legs and put his paws out like a toddler would to be picked up......he's a strange moggy but he's very loving.

kidcat

Ahh poor kitty pooky, ours will stand and ask to be picked up too:)

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we should be eating butter, lard, meat plus fat (preferably stewed ie not roasted), unhomogenised milk, a little olive oil and a possibly a smaller amount of coconut oil. I have been doing a lot of research and our worst illnesses started after we were sucked in, by the big food and chem companies, into using polyunsaturates and margarines of all sorts. Also bad are refined sugars and white grains. Monoculture ie farmers growing the same crop on the same land year after year and I see it here, feed wheat every single year and again the biggest companies and their profits are to blame, the likes of monsanto

Personally I have used only butter and wholegrains for a long time but have now gone onto non homogenised milk and got rid of my remaining rapeseed oil and am cooking with coconut oil or butter or lard or ghee or olive oil. For sugars I use billingtons non refined brown sugars, muscovado sugar or molasses, which is packed full of goodness

Don`t get me going on sweetners either. The only one I use is stevia and then only in the likes of a sour hm compots

one of my first books, as a `housewife` in 1970 was `you are what you eat` and tbh it has never been so true

savingqueen

good to hear that nutty

don't worry kidcat, he will change his mind again before the big day! we have got hardly anything from kids' lists - mind you they did have about 50 things each on it :rotfl: hope you haven't got the bug btw

my friend's daughter had an ipad and a big bag of sweets on her list... guess which one she's getting! (and some toys etc as well)

DS8 said to me today in a serious tone "don't worry mum you don't look too old". Errr thanks?!

pooky - glad kitty is ok, poor thing and cute with the stretched paws thing!

jem - you ok? (unless I missed a post) and GQ how's the cold?

sq:)

GreyQueen

katieowl wrote: »

Yeah well you get what you pay for don't you...I bet he could pull your brains out down your nose, or line your garden obelisks up with Orion!!!

I swap cake for Goats cheese - on a weekly basis!

Kate

LMAO, I have "paid" the Computer Wizard in pizza, pickled onions and apple pie. Not all on the same occasion, I hasten to add.:rotfl:

Feeling a bit plague-y as have stinking cold and am crashing into my bed very early (8.30 pm last night, 9.30 pm the night before). This too shall pass. SuperGran is communicating by phone at the moment to avoid infection.

pooky, glad your puddytat has been mended, so cute how some of them ask to be cuddled, isn't it?

Right, no more energy; big hugs to all and catch you laters when I'm back to firing on all cylinders (prolly Tuesday week )

greenbee

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

100% correct MAR - how on earth did the human race exist for thousands of years without all this specific instruction as to what is right and what is not? I read the papers now expecting to see that one week eating cheese is going to kill you and then reading the next week that if you don't eat cheese you're going to die!!!!! No wonder folks are scared to take their own path these days it all gets published and pushed by the media until the confusion is greater than the guidance. We surely can do a better job than this?

There was a great cartoon in a medical journal a few years ago, with one of those boards you have for seeing who is in or out of an office (you know, the ones where you slide the board over to indicate it). But instead of people it had butter, alcohol, chocolate, wine etc...

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