The difference between Londoners and New Yorkers

BobQ

TruckerT wrote: »

I have heard no New Yorker complaining about Mother Nature - if London were to be similarly afflicted, most people on the telly would be blaming The Council

TruckerT

It does not need a natural disaster to enable the British to complain. We can do this without assistance.

pqrdef

TruckerT wrote: »

I think Obama would be willing to take 100% of the blame in return for another 4 years in office

Can't think why he'd want 4 more years, especially with a Republican Congress. But then, that's always the puzzle.

PaulF81

I bet obama wishes the hurricane jumped over the east coast and landed in texas or colorado.

Generali

PaulF81 wrote: »

I bet obama wishes the hurricane jumped over the east coast and landed in texas or colorado.

The ironic thing about current US geographical voting patterns is that the Democrats used to be the party of the Southern slave owners and the Republicans were strongly anti-slavery.

The Ku Klux Klan was effectively a terrorist wing of the Democratic Party well into the C20th despite it being banned by Congress not long after the end of the Civil War.

The storms could be the best thing to happen to Obama as it gives him a chance to show bi-partisanship (likely to be a factor in the next 4 years) and his operational leadership skills.

zagubov

Generali wrote: »

The ironic thing about current US geographical voting patterns is that the Democrats used to be the party of the Southern slave owners and the Republicans were strongly anti-slavery.

The Ku Klux Klan was effectively a terrorist wing of the Democratic Party well into the C20th despite it being banned by Congress not long after the end of the Civil War.

The storms could be the best thing to happen to Obama as it gives him a chance to show bi-partisanship (likely to be a factor in the next 4 years) and his operational leadership skills.

The bizarre thing I remember reading years ago was the the Republican and Democrat parties were originally one party which then split.
Plus there were slave states in the north (Union) side which kept slavery longer than the soutrhern states they defeated.
Very complex politics, America, but it's hard to see any big ideas that help you grasp it easily.

Loughton_Monkey

zagubov wrote: »

..... Very complex politics, America, but it's hard to see any big ideas that help you grasp it easily.

Don't know about complexity.

It seems to me that the four-yearly presidential circus is simply a "beauty contest" between people who compete to say "I believe in America" as sincerely as they can.

If you see the way UK politicians are grilled, you could define a hard/easy spectrum with Paxman at one end, and, say, Fiona Phillips at the other end.

When I lived in Chicago, and have visited America, I would rate their degree of political 'grilling' on a scale so low it makes Fiona Phillips look like Paxman.

Rotor

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

The British wouldn't be complaining just about the Council. It would be the Government, Boris personally, Cameron personally, Global Warming, and almost certainly the bankers.

However, the Sandy problem is, in my view, 100% the fault of Obama and his Democrat government.

Well I've just heard it straight from the (White) horses mouth that it was benefit taking scum and parasite civil servants that caused the storm. FACT

Loughton_Monkey

They say that a butterfly flapping its wings in China can cause a storm over on the other side of the world.

My theory is that during one of the recent London 'demonstrations', several lowly paid public sector workers, on housing benefit, child tax credit, Income Support, and child allowance, waved their mis-spelt placards a little bit too much. This would explain it.

TruckerT

vivatifosi wrote: »

I take it you haven't heard the people on Long Island and in the outer boroughs complaining that Mayor Bloomberg has focused all his efforts on Manhattan.

Breaking News! Mayor Bloomberg gets behind Obama because he believes in the problems of Climate Change

TruckerT

MacMickster

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

They say that a butterfly flapping its wings in China can cause a storm over on the other side of the world.

My theory is that during one of the recent London 'demonstrations', several lowly paid public sector workers, on housing benefit, child tax credit, Income Support, and child allowance, waved their mis-spelt placards a little bit too much. This would explain it.

I hope that you're wrong, or else The White Horse frothing about losing his child benefit is likely to be responsible for a Tsunami that will wipe out the lefty, public-sector, benefit-claiming scum the world over.