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The difference between Londoners and New Yorkers

I have heard no New Yorker complaining about Mother Nature - if London were to be similarly afflicted, most people on the telly would be blaming The Council

TruckerT
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  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    I take it you haven't heard the people on Long Island and in the outer boroughs complaining that Mayor Bloomberg has focused all his efforts on Manhattan.
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  • paddyrg
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    I have heard no New Yorker complaining about Mother Nature - if London were to be similarly afflicted, most people on the telly would be blaming The Council

    TruckerT

    Well...unless you were *there*, you rather wouldn't, would you? It's hardly worth a slot on the international news to listen to moaning
  • TruckerT
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    Jon Snow on Channel4 News tried very hard to put the head of the Edison Power Company (or whatever...) on the defensive about the shortage of underground power supplies, and the abundance of vulnerable pylon supplies. The Edison guy more or less chuckled and said 'what are you worrying about - we'll just put the pylons back up and carry on as before'

    The figure of 20 billion dollars now seems to be engraved upon the public perception of the costs of repairing the damage caused by the Sandy Storm. To me, this sounds like little more than small change.

    TruckerT
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  • The British wouldn't be complaining just about the Council. It would be the Government, Boris personally, Cameron personally, Global Warming, and almost certainly the bankers.

    However, the Sandy problem is, in my view, 100% the fault of Obama and his Democrat government.
  • TruckerT
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    the Sandy problem is, in my view, 100% the fault of Obama and his Democrat government.

    I think Obama would be willing to take 100% of the blame in return for another 4 years in office

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  • Graham_Devon
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    TruckerT wrote: »

    The figure of 20 billion dollars now seems to be engraved upon the public perception of the costs of repairing the damage caused by the Sandy Storm. To me, this sounds like little more than small change.

    TruckerT

    To me, it highlighted just how much were printing.

    If $20bn can fix all that destruction.....blimey....just think what the banks have had. It certainly made me think about the collosal sums of money being printed and the power of that money if $20bn (whats that, £14bn?) can provide a solution for the destruction witnessed on the East Coast.

    Sounds a bit optimistic too...I mean, the London Olympics cost £9bn.....and they expect to fix all that with 14?

    As for the blame in this country....it would most certainly lay at Maggie Thatchers feet.
  • zagubov
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    Jon Snow on Channel4 News tried very hard to put the head of the Edison Power Company (or whatever...) on the defensive about the shortage of underground power supplies, and the abundance of vulnerable pylon supplies. The Edison guy more or less chuckled and said 'what are you worrying about - we'll just put the pylons back up and carry on as before'

    The figure of 20 billion dollars now seems to be engraved upon the public perception of the costs of repairing the damage caused by the Sandy Storm. To me, this sounds like little more than small change.

    TruckerT
    It's due to theirr leccy system. 60Hz, hard to send long distances, needs to be stepped down close to houses so they have transformers on telegraph poles and masses of overhead cabling in their streets. They are used to power cuts during storms -it's part of the deal of supp;lying affordable leccy in such a big country.
    They would have to pay a fortune to bury their powerlines and protect it from the lements.

    IIRC The Isle of Man has all its powerlines underground as the tourist industry doesn't want pylons.I think it makes trasnmission three times more expensive than mainland Britain where pylons are routinely seen.
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  • Generali
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    zagubov wrote: »
    It's due to theirr leccy system. 60Hz, hard to send long distances, needs to be stepped down close to houses so they have transformers on telegraph poles and masses of overhead cabling in their streets. They are used to power cuts during storms -it's part of the deal of supp;lying affordable leccy in such a big country.
    They would have to pay a fortune to bury their powerlines and protect it from the lements.

    IIRC The Isle of Man has all its powerlines underground as the tourist industry doesn't want pylons.I think it makes trasnmission three times more expensive than mainland Britain where pylons are routinely seen.

    The electricity company is in the process of burying domestic power lines. I'm not sure why.

    In other news, the electricity company in Aus gets a fixed return on equity employed so the more they spend, the more they earn.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    zagubov wrote: »
    It's due to theirr leccy system. 60Hz, hard to send long distances, needs to be stepped down close to houses so they have transformers on telegraph poles and masses of overhead cabling in their streets. They are used to power cuts during storms -it's part of the deal of supp;lying affordable leccy in such a big country.
    They would have to pay a fortune to bury their powerlines and protect it from the lements.

    IIRC The Isle of Man has all its powerlines underground as the tourist industry doesn't want pylons.I think it makes trasnmission three times more expensive than mainland Britain where pylons are routinely seen.

    I thought one of the reasons power was transmitted via pylons was to do with heat dissipation, not just cost?
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  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    edited 1 November 2012 at 12:36AM
    To me, it highlighted just how much were printing.

    If $20bn can fix all that destruction.....blimey....just think what the banks have had. It certainly made me think about the collosal sums of money being printed and the power of that money if $20bn (whats that, £14bn?) can provide a solution for the destruction witnessed on the East Coast.

    Sounds a bit optimistic too...I mean, the London Olympics cost £9bn.....and they expect to fix all that with 14?

    As for the blame in this country....it would most certainly lay at Maggie Thatchers feet.

    Bit like that deep water well leak, they seemed to pick figures out of no where for the cost in both physical restoration and recovery of earnings.

    Take your point on the amount versus the amount used to bail out the Banks I guess their risks are more voluminous an extrapolated.

    Don't blame Maggie she was just deluded, probably,
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
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