Was the oil changed during a service?

melbury

I suppose this could apply to any car really.

You are totally dependent on the garage being honest. Must say, being a woman, I tend to just pay up and trust that I have actually had a new oil filter fitted and new oil put in.

colino

Sorry SteveJW, you'd be surprised at the number of cars that have gone back to cartridge filters. Unfortunately they also appear to be bought by owners who don't service the cars and don't realise after a while the thing collapses and starts to block the throughput and kills the engine.

gilbert_and_sullivan

SteveJW wrote: »

Anyone care to enlighten me, not aware of any modern cars with a changeable inner element, thought these went out with the ark. Even our large commercial vehicles have a cartridge type filter where the full lot is thrown away

Every BMW and MB thats i've seen has this type of filter, some VW group as far as i'm aware too, but avoided the overrated marque like the plague since mk1 and 2 Golf, so couldn't tell you which do or don't

smjxm09

Thanks for the comments which has reassured me.
The car was serviced by Gates of Stevenage which is a Ford dealer. One thing of note is that it cost £15 extra to have the Ford recommended Castrol oil provided, which I wasn’t offered this time but was last year but again at extra cost. I would have thought that main dealers use recommended lubricants. It seems that they do but only if you pay extra.

photome

CvPiper wrote: »

It'll get grubby quite quickly, but not totally black?

Some cars can be done, the 1.0 3 cylinder VW engine has the oil filter so high up the head, you will only loose what is in the filter plus a touch when removing it. However I doubt anyone would do a filter and not the oil, more likely the other way round.

Wy not drop the oil out to be sure, it will cost you a few litres but put your mind at rest and you will easily be able to tell if it new or not.

really my last 2 cars a diesel astra and a diesel focus both went black after a few miles

CvPiper

Yes, I know it will go black.

But there is 20 mile black, and 10,000 mile black. You can tell the difference!

oldagetraveller

My Diesel Yaris was serviced 2 days ago and checked I the dipstick and had a quick look underneath the car's front end prior to leaving the dealership, I always do. It showed nice clean, new oil. After the 12 miles drive home I rechecked and it was already discoloured. So it doesn't take long. However, as CvPiper says there's a big difference between black black and discoloured black.
Oh, and most modern Toyotas use paper element inserts too.

cardinalbiggles

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

Every BMW and MB thats i've seen has this type of filter, some VW group as far as i'm aware too, but avoided the overrated marque like the plague since mk1 and 2 Golf, so couldn't tell you which do or don't

The newish Fiat MJets (2.0 and 1.6) are all replaceable inserts for the oil filter as well.

SteveJW

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

Every BMW and MB thats i've seen has this type of filter, some VW group as far as i'm aware too, but avoided the overrated marque like the plague since mk1 and 2 Golf, so couldn't tell you which do or don't

As per the title

Asked the lads at work today, we purchased over 30 VW Transporters earlier in the year and they have replaceable elements. They did comment what idiot bought these, apparently the diesel filter is a pig to change.

Heho I'm only the Fleet Manager

photome

CvPiper wrote: »

Yes, I know it will go black.

But there is 20 mile black, and 10,000 mile black. You can tell the difference!

You couldnt with mine ..it was black after a few miles and the same black after 12000 miles.

your original post said it will go grubby but not black, just pointing out that mine didnt go grubby it went black!

Black is Black