We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Housing Association, Howdens, and New Kitchen

Hi,

This is possibly the wrong forum to post my question in, but it is regarding a recent sale and a housing association, so here I go:


I've recently bought a one-bed flat in Battersea. I own the leasehold, the freeholder is Wandle Housing Association. The kitchen was not very nice (the original kitchen, from 1994), and so the first thing I've done is to buy a new kitchen - I went with Betta Kitchens, who offered me the best deal. No issue there.

Yesterday I received a letter from Howdens (who are the trade arm of MFI, I believe). The letter was hand addressed, but the contents were generic. It read:

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am trying to contact you regarding your replacement kitchen on behalf of Wandle Housing Association.

Please contact me as soon as possiuble on the above mobile number so I can arrange a suitable time to visit.

Please call between 8am-5pm, Monday-Friday.

Regards,
XXX



This made me wonder:

- Why did the housing association give my details to Howdens?
- How do Howdens (whom I've never contacted before) know about my new kitchen? Or is just a coincidence and they're contacting everyone who has a flat with Wandle?
- Because I don't own the freehold to the flat, are there any issues with me buying a new kitchen? I didn't think about that when I ordered it. I can't imagine there would be (unless anyone knows differently).

I've rang Howdens, but the person on the letter was on a call, so they're calling me back later.


Has anyone had a similar experience?
Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it. - Jefferson

Comments

  • Polotoo
    Polotoo Posts: 40 Forumite
    Hello there.
    I would think that the letter was purely a co-incidence, and is being sent to those on a planned maintenance programme (others within the block), and has probably been sent to you in error as a leaseholder. I don't think they'll put a new kitchen in for you, unfortunately.
    I have worked for a housing association, and know that leaseholders had to request for any improvements, it was usually just someone confirming that it was ok to continue, they may want to come and inspect the work though.
    Looking at other housing associations websites, this does seem to be the case, so even if you are only changing the kitchen you do need permission from the freeholder, but would suggest you contact them to clarify. They should have a leaseholders/right to buy department who can help.
    Its better to be safe than sorry, and at least you would know.
    Hope this helps.
    Polotoo
    :beer:
  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I would read your lease thoroughly and find any leaseholders booklets that come with it. You may find that some services, repairs and replacements are done and they are included in your service charge.

    Then contact your housing association on the telephone and ask them if they have any deals with Howdens. They should be able to answer you in minutes. http://www.wandle.com/

    You don't always need permission to change a kitchen or bathroom unless you are changing plumbing, putting in extractor fans or rewiring however your lease will tell you this.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

    (If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)
  • Melissa177
    Melissa177 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    Thanks for the advice - I will give Wandle a call.

    I'm not rewiring or adding any additional extractor fans, or changing the plumbing - it's largely a straight swap. I did read the lease quite thoroughly at the time, but I think I should recheck it again. Thanks for the advice.
    Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it. - Jefferson
  • kingkano
    kingkano Posts: 1,977 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    We had the same thing with our housing association. All the council tenants are getting new kitchens but not the leaseholders obviously. But the people sent out to meet the council tenants quite often didnt have the correct details about who was a leaseholder and who wasnt.

    Purely coincidental that your kitchen is being done at the same time though lol.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.9K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.5K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.1K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.9K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.5K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.4K Life & Family
  • 258.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.