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Threatening to suspend my brother for not having a passport?!

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  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 1,766 Forumite
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    caeler wrote: »
    I think it has to be the extended birth certificate not the short one because the short one has been vunerable to forgery apparently. Good luck. Hope you can get it sorted quickly because I'm afraid to say Tesco could dismiss really quickly on this one so your brother should tell them (perhaps in writing for an audit trail) to explain what evidence he'll be supplying and what he has to do to get it.

    If thats the case, I would order a new passport and not a birth certificate - good investment Id say....
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  • prowla
    prowla Posts: 14,351 Forumite
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    It cannot be a legal requirement to have a passport to get a job.
    It may be a very good way of confirming identity, but since there is no requirement for a person to have a passport, there has to be a way of doing it without one.
  • Madjock
    Madjock Posts: 744 Forumite
    *Kat* wrote: »
    No, he's not an immigrant. He was born in Glasgow, lived in the UK his entire life.

    Why else would I even discuss his passport? Don't immigrants need more than a passport to live here?

    Also, I don't see any problem with my punctuation, paragraphs or capitals. FYI.

    The point is that immigrants will have their status on their passport - whether they have leave to remain, the right to work, recourse to UK benefits.

    Your post is grammatically troublesome. It is very poorly worded. Try reading it again and putting yourself in the position of someone who deosn't have the information that's inside your head.

    Tescos are not being difficult. As has already been pointed out, this is a legal requirement and if your brother doesn't have his passport (or a passport), he should check the list of alternatives and provide two of them.
  • I had to go through this malarkey earlier this year when I was TUPEd to a new company. My passport expired years ago and I only had a short birth cert (the only one I've ever had). I had to go to the town hall to get a full birth cert.

    My employer said they'd refund the cost then changed their mind (:mad:), then they lost the certified copy they took of it, along with my P60 (:mad::mad:). I had to fetch the originals back in so they could take another copy. Then they claimed the original set had turned up. I asked for them back since they no longer needed them and they told me they'd already destroyed them. Liars. They didn't turn up at all, they just told me that in an attempt to pacify me (:mad::mad::mad:).
  • Madjock
    Madjock Posts: 744 Forumite
    From UKBA document:

    Document combinations
    These documents will only give you an excuse against payment of a civil penalty if they are given to you in
    the combinations specified.
    FIRST COMBINATION
    An official document issued by a previous employer or Government agency, e.g. HM Revenue and
    Customs (formerly the Inland Revenue), the Department for Work and Pensions, Jobcentre Plus,
    the Training and Employment Agency (Northern Ireland) or the Northern Ireland Social Security
    Agency, which contains the National Insurance number and name of the person.
    A P45, P60, National Insurance number card, or a letter from a Government agency may be acceptable to
    demonstrate a person’s National Insurance number in order to have this part of your excuse. You should
    note that from July 2011 HM Revenue & Customs stopped issuing National Insurance number cards to
    adults (mainly foreign nationals), this has been replaced with a letter that will be issued by the Department
    for Work and Pensions.
    From October 2011 HM Revenue & Customs stopped issuing National Insurance number cards to Juveniles
    (young people) and now issue a letter.
    However, there will still be National Insurance cards in circulation for those individuals who received cards
    prior to July/ October 2011.

    Along with checking and copying a document giving the person’s National Insurance number and
    name, you must also check and copy ONE of the following documents listed in sections 7 – 13.
    You should note that the requirement for a properly documented National Insurance number will only
    provide an excuse when given to you in combination with one of the acceptable documents, as specified in
    Lists A and B.

    I'm only pasting the ones relevant to your brother

    A full birth certificate issued in the United Kingdom which includes the name(s) of at least one
    of the holder’s parents
    You must only accept the original of a full UK birth certificate, which must include the names of the
    holder and at least one of their parents.

    So, he just needs a P60 or payslip from another employer and his birth certificate.
  • Threatening to suspend my brother for not having a passport?!
    They want right to live in the UK, he took in his passport the first day he started because they said they needed it.


    WHO? you didn't say...........did you?
    Blackpool_Saver is female, and does not live in Blackpool

  • skivenov
    skivenov Posts: 2,204 Forumite
    I've always used a copy of my birth certificate and my driving licence, never had a problem.
    Yes it's overwhelming, but what else can we do?
    Get jobs in offices and wake up for the morning commute?
  • if hes misplaced his passport he will have to report it lost or stolen anyway!!!!
    Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery, And Today is a Gift, That's Why it's Called The Present
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  • agrinnall
    agrinnall Posts: 23,344 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    if hes misplaced his passport he will have to report it lost or stolen anyway!!!!

    Indeed, and this is the place to do it.

    https://www.gov.uk/report-a-lost-or-stolen-passport
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