Child-related benefits may be 'capped' at two children

princeofpounds

According to Barnardo's there are 3.6m children in the UK currently living in poverty.

The definition they use (and in fact most poverty charities use, and the one the labour govt adopted) is conveniently relative. It's 60% of the median income on a house hold basis.

So basically you aren't ever going to eliminate poverty under these definitions, and as the columnist below points out it is really a measure of equality rather than actual poverty.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3598966/What-Dr-Barnardo-called-poverty-is-unknown-in-Britain-today.html

The_White_Horse

i'd like to socially exclude most of these filth bags. useless pointless people, draining our nation of valuable assets. if they have a roof over their head, heating (when needed) and are not starving, they are not in poverty. the end.

kabayiri

Imagine if they implement this with a cut-off date.

Would there be women on estates up and down the land rushing out to get pregnant? The scenes would be like something out of League of Gentleman!

daveyjp

Another proposal for a single solution to a problem which barely exists.

pqrdef

Of course the traditional way of dealing with unwanted babies was just to dump them somewhere and leave them to die. You could tell yourself that hopefully somebody might find them. Hence the gooseberry bush tale. And foundlings were common enough, though only a fraction of those abandoned.

Personally I can't understand why better-off couples don't take in these surplus children, send them to good schools and bring them up as responsible right-thinking Tories, instead of leaving them with their scumbag mothers to perpetuate the cycle. Isn't that their public duty?

Loughton_Monkey

The_White_Horse wrote: »

i'd like to socially exclude most of these filth bags. useless pointless people, draining our nation of valuable assets. if they have a roof over their head, heating (when needed) and are not starving, they are not in poverty. the end.

Split infinitive apart, most eloquently put.

I just wonder if we ever met before? Maybe at a Social Worker convention, the Labour Party Conference, or maybe at the John Prescott school of English & Diplomacy?

parry_hotter

What would happen to a working woman in a stable relationship with 1 child who becomes pregnant with triplets and the father !!!!!!s off and for whatever reason she cant go back to work?

daveyjp

parry_hotter wrote: »

What would happen to a working woman in a stable relationship with 1 child who becomes pregnant with triplets and the father !!!!!!s off and for whatever reason she cant go back to work?

That's one scenario of hundreds about why this idea will not happen. As they said on Question Time IDS has no credibility, he needs to think of some 'savings' to contribute to the next 10bn of welfare cuts.

Stopping all CB would be far easier to manage, save billions but also be very unpopular. Far better to be seen to be bashing the 'spongers', except this would also affect millions who are working.

SingleSue

pqrdef wrote: »

Of course the traditional way of dealing with unwanted babies was just to dump them somewhere and leave them to die. You could tell yourself that hopefully somebody might find them. Hence the gooseberry bush tale. And foundlings were common enough, though only a fraction of those abandoned.

Personally I can't understand why better-off couples don't take in these surplus children, send them to good schools and bring them up as responsible right-thinking Tories, instead of leaving them with their scumbag mothers to perpetuate the cycle. Isn't that their public duty?

I have 3 children, am now a single parent (divorced) and receive benefits (as a carer)....but I refute the title of being a scumbag mother.

My children were all born during marriage (just the one marriage, they all have the same father), none have been born since the divorce...be a bit blooming impossible as I had a hysterectomy 11 years ago :rotfl: and we were both working at the time, split shifting to deal with childcare.

My eldest is a member of the Conservative party, the other two have not yet decided their political afinity but will probably be Conservative too. All 3 have done or are doing extremely well at school, with eldest in his final year of A levels and off to university next year, middle son his final year of GCSEs and youngest just starting his GCSE years. All are classed as a joy to teach, polite, responsible and (especially middle son), exceptionally bright and talented.

I take an avid interest in their education, support them in their interests and have taught them social responsibility, morals and a work ethic.

So please, when discussing single parents, can we avoid lumping everyone in with those who do breed for money....some of us are responsible and not devoid of morals.

The_White_Horse

parry_hotter wrote: »

What would happen to a working woman in a stable relationship with 1 child who becomes pregnant with triplets and the father !!!!!!s off and for whatever reason she cant go back to work?

she'd get benefits for two of them.