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37 coalition climbdowns, u-turns and row backs
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grizzly1911 wrote: »Why hasn't a vaccine been made after the years this link has been made?
If it stops the Governement having to pay out each time a cow/bull gets infected and preserves farming in this country then culling badgers where there is a problem has to be an option.
I disagree very strongly with the decision to cull badgers – and so do many scientists who are far more expert on the matter than I am.
Resources (meaning money and the expertise that it will bring) must be put in to finding a cattle vaccine. It would be morally wrong to destroy a key native species – it is humans who have been responsible for the spread of bovine TB to the badger population and they should put all their resources into finding a vaccine. Why should these innocent animals suffer terribly as a result of our actions?
Life is not all about money, you know.0 -
Life is not all about money, you know.
I agree, but there are a number of farmers who are trying to keep a livelihood going who feel differently. £10ms have been invested in trying to find a suitable vaccine thus far too. The EU also muddy the waters.
I don't think they are talking about obliterating the species merely managing it around herds in the SW.
Perhaps a twin approach is needed."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
What gets me most about this Govt is the inability to get Labour's failings across whilst at the same time falling over themselves in silly little things.
A good example if the George Osborne train story. As anyone who has used trains knows, if you have a standard ticket, you can get an upgrade on the train. Sometimes it can be as low as £10. Sometimes a lot more. You sit in first class and pay when the conductor arrives. There is no story there. However, MPs claiming first class travel when they shouldnt (bar the exception) is a story. The fact that Labour dominated the abuse seems to be ignored. Stories in the media that did cover it still managed to paint Osborne with his paid for upgrade out of his own pocket as being worse than First class being paid for with MPs expenses.
This Govt needs much better PR and needs to stop faffing around. Proposals for consideration and consultation need to stop being put forward as policy. Changes due to consultation are very common. That is the case under any Govt. Changing your mind because of consultation is not a bad thing. However, changing a policy after consultation has taken place and is in an advanced stage is not good (unless there were fundamental flaws).
At this stage they can't carry on blaming Labour for an international depression. Osbourne's last budget was an absolute disaster. That budget was not written by Labour!0 -
At this stage they can't carry on blaming Labour for an international depression. Osbourne's last budget was an absolute disaster. That budget was not written by Labour!
I didn't know about Osbourne's disastrous budget. Maybe Sharon has been a bit too profligate with the credit cards ?
Osborne's could have been better though.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
Surrounding this, Ed Milliband has been attacking Cameron at PMQ's over the energy policy (surrounding offering the cheapest tarriff).
Cameron was prepared and reeled off a list of things Ed now wants to do now that he's not in government, that he specifically decided not to do when he was in government. Such as referring the big six to an investigation. He made an active decision not to do so.
Ed Milliband then claimed, to the embarrasment of even his own party it seems, full credit for the average energy bill falling £100 when he was energy minister, yet it has risen under Cameron as prime minister.
Why are labour leaders claiming credit for this? And secondly why attack on decisions that haven't been made, that labour themselves wouldn't make?0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »I agree, but there are a number of farmers who are trying to keep a livelihood going who feel differently. £10ms have been invested in trying to find a suitable vaccine thus far too. The EU also muddy the waters.
I don't think they are talking about obliterating the species merely managing it around herds in the SW.
Perhaps a twin approach is needed.
badgers look cutesy in pictures on tv though so killing them is an outrage.
culling rats to prevent disease would clearly be nowhere near as contraversial...0 -
chewmylegoff wrote: »badgers look cutesy in pictures on tv though so killing them is an outrage.
culling rats to prevent disease would clearly be nowhere near as contraversial...
Not so cute when upgraded to dubstep:eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSYYA6WUlQU"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »I accept your view but have you ever been involved with farming in Kingston On Thames.
Why hasn't a vaccine been made after the years this link has been made?
If it stops the Governement having to pay out each time a cow/bull gets infected and preserves farming in this country then culling badgers where there is a problem has to be an option.
I thought they were vaccinating Badgers in Wales rather than shooting them?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-18440034'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »
Not always in 'real time' either :eek:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/3023369.stmA rogue badger attacked five people during a 48-hour rampage in a quiet suburb.
One man required two skin graft operations, after the badger woke him up and attacked him when he went outside to investigate'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
At this stage they can't carry on blaming Labour for an international depression. Osbourne's last budget was an absolute disaster. That budget was not written by Labour!
Yes they can and should.
The global economy is outside the control of a little country. However, the Labour Govt borrowed and spent at an uncontrollable level. They have largely got away with it too as it is the current Government that is suffering the consequences of that because people benefiting from taxpayer spending tend not to vote or react kindly to those doing the cuts. Even when the cuts were needed.I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.0
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