DLA Changes

gemma1979

Are the changes affecting working age claimants only or child claimants as well thanks

rogerblack

At the moment, it's only working age.
As the child becomes an adult, they will have to apply for PIP.

It will require legislation for them to change this, and apply PIP to non-working age people.
If the current government in some form gets in in the next election, I would expect this shortly afterwards.

LunaLady

They wont move under 16's over to PIP. Children going through the ATOS assessments would cause an outcry that even this government cant stomach.

Parva

I wouldn't pay much attention to Andy's scaremongering.

rogerblack

LunaLady wrote: »

They wont move under 16's over to PIP. Children going through the ATOS assessments would cause an outcry that even this government cant stomach.

Spin.
Selected cases who are better off under PIP presented to the media, along with case studies of those who 'don't deserve', a nebulous program of increased help for some which in practice won't really appear, deflection onto partially relevant topics - 'but the new universal credit'...

I would be extremely hesitant to say what they can't stomach.

Having said that.
This will require legislation to bring in, for either children, or for the aged.
Time enough to worry when the above noises start to be made.

Richie-from-the-Boro

An update on [getting rid of Welfri advice first] Universal Credit :


Lord Bach: My Lords, does the Minister accept that when universal credit comes in, an enormous number of wrong decisions are bound to be made? Is he aware that just when universal credit comes in, legal aid for legal help with benefit law will just have been abolished? Are those two facts merely coincidental, or is it a calculated act of policy, whose aim is to punish the vulnerable and the poorest?

Lord Freud: My Lords, when you turn what can be 200 pages of applications for the current suite of benefits into one very much more simplified system, clearly you will dramatically reduce the number of errors that people will make. I therefore think that the complaint is about the existing system and not about the system we are planning.

here is the relevant part of the debate

snoopy89

when universal credit comes in, legal aid for legal help with benefit law will just have been abolished? Are those two facts merely coincidental, or is it a calculated act of policy, whose aim is to punish the vulnerable and thits about time these so called lords and mps got of there backsides and stopped trying to carve the man in the street up. and start looking in there own home. they stop legal aid for when they screw up, but if we screw up they do us.e poorest?

its about time these so called lords and mps got of there backsides and stopped trying to carve the man in the street up. all i can say is what a disgusting lot of low life are running this country and making its so called laws.

stop the planet now. i want to get of.:mad:

Richie-from-the-Boro

snoopy89 wrote: »

when universal credit comes in, legal aid for legal help with benefit law will just have been abolished? Are those two facts merely coincidental, or is it a calculated act of policy, whose aim is to punish the vulnerable and thits about time these so called lords and mps got of there backsides and stopped trying to carve the man in the street up. and start looking in there own home. they stop legal aid for when they screw up, but if we screw up they do us.e poorest?

its about time these so called lords and mps got of there backsides and stopped trying to carve the man in the street up. all i can say is what a disgusting lot of low life are running this country and making its so called laws.

stop the planet now. i want to get of.:mad:

if you want to be automatically kept up to date with Lord Bach's uttering's, without searching, click here

rogerblack

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

if you want to be automatically kept up to date with Lord Bach's uttering's, without searching, click here

Though more relevant to benefits -

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/iain_duncan_smith/chingford_and_woodford_green
and

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_freud
as well as

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/mark_hoban/fareham

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/search/?s=freud

Amused me, as it contains the line 'Results 1-20 of 3,687 for freud
Did you mean: fraud?'

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/search/?s=%22employment+and+support%22 - is also useful - it comes up with a debate on the 21st at 9:30AM into ESA and the WCA.

Richie-from-the-Boro

I only ever bought one lottery ticket in my life, now I feel guilty. In order to help the old vulnerable and ill we need the CAB, in particular tribunal appeals, the CONdems as we know are making sure they dismantle the Citizens Advice Bureau before the PIP / UC goes live. It looks like most in this group are going to have to thank their god that the lottery exists. See here.