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First class rail fares - are they reasonable?

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  • JWF wrote: »
    I suppose 1st class fares are a good way of keeping the plebs out of the nicer carriages on the train, but are they worth the extra cost?? Let's ask 'Gorgeous' George Osborne.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20008342

    I wouldn't quite call 90% of the population 'plebs'. And you do get plebs in first class carriages, but these are rich plebs, or at least plebs with employers that are happy to pay for them to travel first class.
  • thor
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    callum9999 wrote: »


    Maybe if you used your brain instead of rolling out a load of knee-jerk reverse-snobbery, you'd be able to move up in status out of the "plebs"...
    Hmm so I presume you are above the status of a 'pleb'. Well sorry my friend I would rather steer clear then.
    As for Gideon do you really think this was the first time he tried to get away with travelling first class with a standard class ticket?
    And how come there are so many jumping on this 'reverse snobbery' bandwagon b*llsh*t- hardly original is it? Looks like intelligence is not a prerequisite for membership of whatever class lies above pleb status then(especially if it includes those Einsteins - Osbourne and Mitchell)
  • chewmylegoff
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    thor wrote: »
    Hmm so I presume you are above the status of a 'pleb'. Well sorry my friend I would rather steer clear then.
    As for Gideon do you really think this was the first time he tried to get away with travelling first class with a standard class ticket?
    And how come there are so many jumping on this 'reverse snobbery' bandwagon b*llsh*t- hardly original is it? Looks like intelligence is not a prerequisite for membership of whatever class lies above pleb status then(especially if it includes those Einsteins - Osbourne and Mitchell)

    approaching the "train manager" as soon as you get on the train and saying "can i pay to upgrade to first class" is a pretty crap way of trying "to get away with travelling first class with a standard class ticket", don't you think?
  • We are still not been told all the facts. It is very possible that they intended to travel second class but found the train was packed out and decided they were better off in first class at that point. They were fully aware of what they had to do so immediately found the ticket officer and did the necessary. The whole of this non story has been blown out of all proportion by a few nosey journalists with an urge to tweet everything under the sun together with their own made up extras.
  • MacMickster
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    If I was travelling in 1st class and suddenly found Gideon and his entourage sitting next to me, I would pay extra to downgrade to pleb class.
    "When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
  • Wilmslow to Euston: standard advance open £140, although he could have got a first-class fare for £49. I've just booked for Euston for December and got standard for £10 but could have paid £37.50 for first class.
  • BobQ
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    approaching the "train manager" as soon as you get on the train and saying "can i pay to upgrade to first class" is a pretty crap way of trying "to get away with travelling first class with a standard class ticket", don't you think?

    True if that is what he did. More likely he sent his pretty advisor to smile sweetly at the train manager and hope she could get him the free upgrade as Mr Osborne cannot possibly sit in second class.
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  • chewmylegoff
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    BobQ wrote: »
    True if that is what he did. More likely he sent his pretty advisor to smile sweetly at the train manager and hope she could get him the free upgrade as Mr Osborne cannot possibly sit in second class.

    So given that that is exactly what virgin trains said happened, who are we to believe? The train manager / virgin trains / george osborne, or a TV reporter who wasn't actually there?
  • JWF
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    The initial reference to 'plebs' was, of course, tongue in cheek, but it is interesting how much debate it has stirred up on the thread.
    All I seem to hear is blah blah blah!
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    edited 23 October 2012 at 5:59PM
    So given that that is exactly what virgin trains said happened, who are we to believe? The train manager / virgin trains / george osborne, or a TV reporter who wasn't actually there?

    I guess reality is somewhere in between much the same as Mitchell.

    Whatever it was still something of an own goal.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

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