Army deducted £500 from tour bonus

My son was serving in Afghan earlier this year and was two weeks short of the end of the six month stint when I had a heart attack.

The Army checked with the hospital about my condition, and the hospital suggested it was best if he came home. The Army laid on a chopper to bring him back from his base to Camp Bastion and then flew him home. He was home within 48 hours of my attack. He wasn't given any choice about coming home - he was told he was being flown home due to the emergency.

I certainly have no complaints of how the Army reacted to the emergency, and it certainly helped in my recovery.

However, they have now without warning deducted £500 from his salary this month as they say he did not complete his tour, saying he shouldn't have received a full tour bonus.

Does anyone know if this correct, and is it possible he could claim the money back from his insurance which he took out prior to going to Afghan?
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  • Andy_LAndy_L Forumite
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    "he did not complete his tour, saying he shouldn't have received a full tour bonus" seems reasonable.
    AIUI the only exception is if he was injured in which case the bonus is paid as if he'd been there for the full planned length (and possibly whilst in hospital as well?).
    He would need to check his policy to see what he can/can't claim
  • If he claimed for his operational allowance in advance but did not complete his tour, then yes I think they would be right to take it back. When overpaid allowances it normally shows up on payslips - giving them warning that they will have the debt taken back from their pay. At a guess - speaking to a clerk would probably be the best thing to do.
  • edited 17 October 2012 at 8:51PM
    PaulF81PaulF81 Forumite
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    Its correct. I work a very weird Op deployment pattern that can see me in and out of theatre one or two days a week, alternatively, could see me there for a month.

    The minute you leave theatre, unless en-route or at to decomp, you stop your Operational Allowance, paid at around £30 a day. That applies to EVERYONE, unless you are repatriated to Selly Oak due to very serious Injuries.

    Its a completely fair way of doing it; why should he get a taxpayer paid allowance if he no longer qualifies? The Insurance will be a non-starter, which usually provides cover for injury or death only.
  • edited 26 November 2012 at 7:08PM
    bcc212_2bcc212_2 Forumite
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    As far as I am aware, any medical, compassionate leave etc is not taken from your op bonus. Think he should check that out.

    I have seen many lads in and out of afghan due to whatever and not completing full tours and have always got full op bonus for the whole tour. It wasn't his fault he was taken away.

    As for op bonus stopping when inbound to bloodhound. That's also wrong. The RAF get op bonus whilst on decomp. Navy and Army do not.

    I'd definitely get him to check that out. Seems different services get different pay patterns.
  • Trying_to_be_goodTrying_to_be_good Forumite
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    Op Allowance (bonus) stops for everyone the day after they leave (the qualifying) theatre - no difference in the three services. I think that's also the case even if you leave on compassionate grounds. Full tour is paid to anyone who sally outages their life in theatre, not sure on medical evacuation. My OH came back pretty much in one piece, thankfully.
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  • The army got your son to you within 48 hours of you having a heart attack - they actually could have refused to release him to come home.

    You say having him there assisted your recovery.

    I can't help thinking that it's a little ungrateful to gripe that your son didn't get paid for the time when he wasn't in theatre - if you feel that badly for him... perhaps you could give him the money?
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  • edited 1 December 2012 at 6:43PM
    poppasmurf_bewdleypoppasmurf_bewdley Forumite
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    edited 1 December 2012 at 6:43PM
    The army got your son to you within 48 hours of you having a heart attack - they actually could have refused to release him to come home.

    You say having him there assisted your recovery.

    I can't help thinking that it's a little ungrateful to gripe that your son didn't get paid for the time when he wasn't in theatre - if you feel that badly for him... perhaps you could give him the money?

    Please can you tell me where in my post did I "gripe" about how my son was treated? I said very specifically that I had no complaints with how the army acted, and I merely asked if their action was correct.

    And for your information, although it has absolutely nothing to do with you, I bought and paid for the bedroom furniture for the house him and his fiancee recently moved into, which was a darned sight more than £500.

    Opps, forgot to mention that his commanding officer was so incensed when he heard about it that he has taken up the matter with the pay department in the first instance.
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  • edited 1 December 2012 at 8:39PM
    TiddlywinksTiddlywinks Forumite
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    Opps, forgot to mention that his commanding officer was so incensed when he heard about it that he has taken up the matter with the pay department in the first instance.

    So, why the need to ask on here if his CO is already on the case?

    Can't you just leave it to your son to sort it on his own?

    PS - I didn't say your 'gripe' *was" about your son getting home - I fully appreciate that your 'gripe' is that you think it's unfair that he was not paid his allowance for a time when he was NOT in theatre...
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  • poppasmurf_bewdleypoppasmurf_bewdley Forumite
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    So, why the need to ask on here if his CO is already on the case?

    Can't you just leave it to your son to sort it on his own?

    Firstly, because I only found out about his CO taking up the case yesterday.

    Secondly, I would hope that if you have children you would be willing to try and help out if you could. I certainly take that view even if you find it strange.
    "There are not enough superlatives in the English language to describe a 'Princess Coronation' locomotive in full cry. We shall never see their like again". O S Nock
  • poppasmurf_bewdleypoppasmurf_bewdley Forumite
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    I fully appreciate that your 'gripe' is that you think it's unfair that he was not paid his allowance for a time when he was NOT in theatre...

    There you go again, putting words in my mouth. Where in my post did I state that it was unfair that he was not paid his full allowance?
    "There are not enough superlatives in the English language to describe a 'Princess Coronation' locomotive in full cry. We shall never see their like again". O S Nock
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