New extension

redkids1972

Hi
Im just looking for some help as to where to start with planning my extension. I have a semi-detached bungalow with a large driveway. I would like to build an extension along the side and also past the rear of the property. We have a limited budget so need to get the correct advice and not do things wrongly which may prove costly.
My neighbour will not object if I put planning permission as at the moment looks horrid think he will prefer it to be tidy:D so this is not a problem.
I sent my husband out with a tape measure and I would like a seven meter long extension from just behind the front elevation line and down the drive and past the rear elevation line which allows it to overlook the garden. There will still be 3-4 m too the rear property boundry. the new extension will only be 25% of ground as I have large wide front and back garden. The width of the extension will be 3 m.
My question is will I need planning permission for the 7x3m extension my initial research says yes. If I reduce the length to 6m (can live with this) can I have it without planning under the new permitted development rules.
Thanks any help apreciated:beer:

Doozergirl

My Local Authority have a planning surgery where you can turn up for informal advice.

My feeling is that as the new side extension is not part of the "original house" you can't build beyond the rear elevation of the house *at the side* under Permitted Development Rights. I'd think it might need full planning permission, but that doesn't mean it would be a problem and refused! If you were building a rear extension to the rear of the existing house of 3m, that would be okay, but the side/rear area is more than a little bit grey in my mind. If you want to build 4m back then that would always require permission if you're attached.

Everybody seems to have different interpretations, including different local authorities, hence it's far better to take advice.

The side boundary may also play a factor in whether you need permission. I have a feeling that it might need to be at least 1m away and below a certain height in order to qualify?

cyclonebri1

You will need planning consent for several reasons including the size.
look at the planning portal for general info and ring your local planning authority for specifics.
But on the assumption that you are going to have plans and constructions details done for building regs anyway, get that person round to give you an idea if it will be acceptable in your area. Make sure they are local.

redkids1972

Thanks so much for the replies phoned the local council who asked me to send in brief sketch which will give them an idea if i will need permission. I have had brief chat with neighbours who had simmilar extension anad they needed Planning so will meet with architect and get plans drawn up
thanks

martinsurrey

I wouldnt be too sure if you need planning,

the side part of the extension needs to be under half the width of the original house and the length of the rear extension (so the part behind the "original house") has to be under 3 meters.

And with the proposed changes to permitted development (doubling the rear length allowed) you could possibly get your 4m without getting planning.

If it’s a fairly standard house (and you don’t want to win any cutting edge design awards) I wouldn’t bother with an architect, get a good draftsman or even just a good structural engineer (who you will need anyway for the calculations) to draw up plans for the builder and building regulations.

redkids1972

martinsurrey wrote: »

I wouldnt be too sure if you need planning,

the side part of the extension needs to be under half the width of the original house and the length of the rear extension (so the part behind the "original house") has to be under 3 meters.

And with the proposed changes to permitted development (doubling the rear length allowed) you could possibly get your 4m without getting planning.

If it’s a fairly standard house (and you don’t want to win any cutting edge design awards) I wouldn’t bother with an architect, get a good draftsman or even just a good structural engineer (who you will need anyway for the calculations) to draw up plans for the builder and building regulations.

Thanks for the reply the side extension will just run down the drive and past the rear linee of the house not off the rear of the original house (hope it makes sense) will the 3m rear still be allowed even thought its rear of the side extension? if so great news:j

System

If you neighbours have a similar extension and it required planning permission I would be taking that advice rather than some general advice from an internet forum - I would have to disagree with martinsurrey's advice of not needing an architect, they don't only design for "cutting edge design awards" that is total nonsense, however they are bound by a professional body which requires insurance cover etc which many unlicensed draftsmen don't carry - and they are also trained in "design" so might be able to offer ideas which you might not have thought of and offer advice on planning issues and building issues (which could save money over the course of the job)
however I know advice like this is usually poo-poo'd on here, the normal advice is to ignore the design stage and bash on, get a building notice and allow the builder to get on with it, great money saving tip there

cyclonebri1

martinsurrey wrote: »

I wouldnt be too sure if you need planning,

the side part of the extension needs to be under half the width of the original house and the length of the rear extension (so the part behind the "original house") has to be under 3 meters.

And with the proposed changes to permitted development (doubling the rear length allowed) you could possibly get your 4m without getting planning.

If it’s a fairly standard house (and you don’t want to win any cutting edge design awards) I wouldn’t bother with an architect, get a good draftsman or even just a good structural engineer (who you will need anyway for the calculations) to draw up plans for the builder and building regulations.

Yes that's exactly right, no architect needed, there will be many plan drawers advertising in your location, many building control officers moonlight in this role.

Regarding the changes to planning regs arn't they just as you say, proposals at present?

I think the op has gone the correct way, simply sending in a sketch, personally I'd take it in.:T:T