bus lane ticket

getzls

harleq1962 wrote: »

Ive received a fine for entering a bus lane before 9.30 am , Im not one for using the bus lanes, time states offence was at 9.29 and 37 seconds, i remember the day well, i was taking my wife to a hospital appointment the clock in the car was minutes passed 9.30 and it had said on the radio it was 9.30, I even said to my wife its ok to use the lane now, does any one have any advice on how accurate their clock is and what are my chances on an appealing, thanks for looking and any advice given.

Don't believe you, guilty.:cool:

londonTiger

27col wrote: »

If the clock in your car is the same as the clock in my car then it is never accurate.In fact, I have never had a car where the clock was accurate. I have often wondered why this should be.
As to your problem I cannot see that there is any way that you could prove that what you say is correct. But, you never know, it has got to be worth an appeal. You have nothing to lose by appealing.

unless your driving an ancient car with analogue clock there's no reason for it to be innacurate. digital clocks run on quartz, as long as it has constant power and is set right it should be accurate enough.

quartz digital clocks only go faster/slower at something like one second a year! The best analogue clocks will shift by that much in just a DAY. Typically nalogue watches will shift +/- anything from 5 to 15 seconds a day.

Obviously almost all cars Ive been on don't display the seconds, but if you were trying to be a bit OCD, you can get the clock to time the seconds correctly by adjusting the clock to the minute exactly as the real clock shifts on the minute. So the seconds will be in sync

harleq1962

thanks for all the advice that was given on this, i got a letter today (5 months later) saying they were cancelling the penalty after careful consideration.
i did ask when i appealed how accurate their clock was and when was it last calibrated, on the bottom of the typed letter it states,

I would advise you that the cctv cameras are calibrated up to 16 times per day with the rugby atomic clock.

spacey2012

harleq1962 wrote: »

thanks for all the advice that was given on this, i got a letter today (5 months later) saying they were cancelling the penalty after careful consideration.
i did ask when i appealed how accurate their clock was and when was it last calibrated, on the bottom of the typed letter it states,

I would advise you that the cctv cameras are calibrated up to 16 times per day with the rugby atomic clock.

Up to ?
So that can be none then, hence the cancellation.
I am saving up to a million pounds.
I only need, nine hundred and ninety nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine pounds.

colino

Just another cash cow for local authorities. In Glasgow when they were proposed years ago the committee took great pains to point out that Glasgow was a well-ordered, grid pattern city centre that was relatively easy to manage traffic wise and bus lanes would simply reduce the road widths and create congestion. Good thinking.
They were then lobbied by the bus companies (including the one inexstricably tied to them) and they pointed out the new income stream. Bingo! Glasgows traffic runs at a crawl and the LA rakes in fortunes. Most recent !!!! up, not a car innocent by a few seconds, but the over-zealous operators sending out a fine and gave out the picture, of a bus in a bus lane.

alleycat`

It is extremely harsh but if the CCTV camera is connected to the "net" it should be time time synced via NTP.

If it is synced via NTP the council could rightly claim it is time synced, indirectly, via an atomic clock and should be spot on the money.

They should be connected to a stratum "2" server to be considered accurate.

The human element says that there is no way someone could know the time down to "20" seconds give or take and the ticket should be revoked on appeal but they might be utter snots about it.

If they do say it is synced via ntp ask them how regularly it is set to do so.
Depending on the time between syncs and the age of the hardware you might be able to generate enough "clock drift" to fight 20 seconds or so.

Edit: wish i'd read the original post date now

Peter999_2

harleq1962 wrote: »

thanks for all the advice that was given on this, i got a letter today (5 months later) saying they were cancelling the penalty after careful consideration.
i did ask when i appealed how accurate their clock was and when was it last calibrated, on the bottom of the typed letter it states,

I would advise you that the cctv cameras are calibrated up to 16 times per day with the rugby atomic clock.

There is no atomic clock in Rugby, would that have worked in defence if required?

alleycat`

Peter999 wrote: »

There is no atomic clock in Rugby, would that have worked in defence if required?

Pedantic but true.
The name "rugby clock" was used for an atomic based "RF" clock.
I don't think they meant in relation to the place in the midlands?