Cost of Food & Obesity Amongst Poorer People

breadlinebetty

adouglasmhor wrote: »

You just said fruit before.

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom in not putting it in a fruit salad.

You can put tomatoes in chutney and sauce, though - and that's sweet.

You can also sprinkle strawberries with black pepper or balsamic - and they're not vegetables.

And don't forget pineapple and cheese pizzas. Whoever thought those up had money wisdom!:p

PasturesNew

breadlinebetty wrote: »

I'm afraid I have to disagree - a swede (start to finish) takes no longer than 20 minutes (4 minutes in a pressure cooker!) Mash that with a little butter and pepper, and bake a chicken thigh for 30 minutes, and you have a delicious nutritious meal in half an hour!

I peel/cut exceedingly slowly. I am dangerous with knives and cack-handed, so I have to do it with a small knife carefully and they're bl00dy tough things to peel without removing fingers.

I can't go into why the next bit would take longer .... but it would.

And ... by christ that sounds like a !!!!!! meal

Pizza .... full of instant win.

~Chameleon~

adouglasmhor wrote: »

I really just mean there are no hard and fast rules, you eat to little and end up losing muscle and slowing your metabolism - so you burn less calories and store more as fat.

But people find this hard to comprehend. Muscle mass increases metabolism which means you are constantly burning calories even at rest. Reducing calories to below your BMR level will see a decrease in muscle mass and therefore result in increased fat gain.

I often see people striving to eat less than 1500 calories a day, even less than 1000 in some cases, and this is a recipe for disaster and leads to the yo-yo weight gain so many people experience.

PasturesNew

Is there actually an easy website where you can find out what you're supposed to have every day - that's actually understandable and without the 'science' stuff that gets complex and confusing?

"5 a day" .... for example, but how big?
And what else do you need each day?

And how do some people get to be uber-geeks that use big words and know this stuff? Do you do it for a job?

adouglasmhor

misskool wrote: »

tomato jam is delicious.

So is carrot jam, a Portuguese tradition and ginger preserve a Victorian invention. Pineapple pop is nice now and again too.

adouglasmhor

breadlinebetty wrote: »

You can put tomatoes in chutney and sauce, though - and that's sweet.

You can also sprinkle strawberries with black pepper or balsamic - and they're not vegetables.

And don't forget pineapple and cheese pizzas. Whoever thought those up had money wisdom!:p

My favourite Pizza - Green Apple and Blue cheese (no sectarianism in my diet )

adouglasmhor

PasturesNew wrote: »

Is there actually an easy website where you can find out what you're supposed to have every day - that's actually understandable and without the 'science' stuff that gets complex and confusing?

"5 a day" .... for example, but how big?
And what else do you need each day?

And how do some people get to be uber-geeks that use big words and know this stuff? Do you do it for a job?

Websites in sort of the general idea you are talking about, Spark People, Myfitnesspal, livestrong.

breadlinebetty

PasturesNew wrote: »

I peel/cut exceedingly slowly. I am dangerous with knives and cack-handed, so I have to do it with a small knife carefully and they're bl00dy tough things to peel without removing fingers.

I can't go into why the next bit would take longer .... but it would.

And ... by christ that sounds like a !!!!!! meal

Pizza .... full of instant win.

Maybe you're a lousy cook, but mashed swede and carrot with pepper and butter, a juicy chicken leg, some steamed broccoli sprinkled with fresh lemon...and a crunchy baked potato all fluffy inside with a knob of butter is sublime!

Much better than a frozen 'pretend' pizza full of salt, artery-clogging lard , fake stringy cheese that isn't actually cheese, and a few little lumps of strange tasting fatty meat thrown on top!:p

A._Badger

It's depressing to see the ease with which the fictitious 'five a day' campiagn persists due to the power of cheap journalism and expensive marketing.

The figure five was clutched out of thin air by Susan Foerster, a Californian nutrionist (a state which produces many of America's fruit and vegetable crops) in the 1980s, as being double the average intake and 'therefore good for you'

All it took was for nanny to crank-up the marketing campaign...

Loughton_Monkey

A._Badger wrote: »

It's depressing to see the ease with which the fictitious 'five a day' campiagn persists due to the power of cheap journalism and expensive marketing.

The figure five was clutched out of thin air by Susan Foerster, a Californian nutrionist (a state which produces many of America's fruit and vegetable crops) in the 1980s, as being double the average intake and 'therefore good for you'

All it took was for nanny to crank-up the marketing campaign...

Mrs Loughton Monkey, sadly, keeps me on the straight & narrow by cooking "real" food most of the time. But when out without her, I often succumb to my own version of "5 a day".

Fish & Chips [Count 1 for the potatoes].
A few peas [Count 2]
Tomato Sauce [Count 3]
Slice of lemon [Count 4]
All washed down with a glass of wine [Count 5 for the fermented grapes].

Luckily I am nowhere near fat. I have an excellent diet for those who are grossly obese. "Eat Less".