Cost of Food & Obesity Amongst Poorer People

chewmylegoff

PasturesNew wrote: »

Cake is subject to VAT, biscuits not.
A Jaffa cake is defined as a biscuit - there was a court case about it a few years ago as they were hit with a VAT bill for being "cake", but it was decided they are a biscuit so no back-VAT due to be paid.

actually biscuits are not subject to VAT unless they are covered with chocolate. cake is not subject to VAT (covered with chocolate or otherwise)

in the court case about jaffa cakes, HMRC were arguing that it was a chocolate covered biscuit and therefore should be subject to VAT, and mcvities were arguing that it was a cake and no VAT was payable.

Zero_Sum

PasturesNew wrote: »

Cake is subject to VAT, biscuits not.
A Jaffa cake is defined as a biscuit - there was a court case about it a few years ago as they were hit with a VAT bill for being "cake", but it was decided they are a biscuit so no back-VAT due to be paid.

nope. only chocolate covered biscuits are subject to VAT, Cakes are not. HMRC claimed the jaffa cake was a chocolate covered biscuit & therefore should attract VAT, McVities argued (& won) that it was a cake, so no VAT

PasturesNew

Oh well.... I was wrong.... but gave a good example

All I know is that right now I have: No biscuits, no cake, no Jaffa cakes, no sweeties, nothing sweet

adouglasmhor

breadlinebetty wrote: »

The 5 portions should be a mixture of fruit and veg, as they differ in vitamins and fibre. And let's not forget how the 'not very bright ones' may well confuse their fruit with veg : like tomatoes, peppers, avocados etc......:A

You just said fruit before.

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom in not putting it in a fruit salad.

adouglasmhor

Another vat anomaly - Doritos (and other tortilla chips) are classed as bread so not vat liable, crisps are though.

ILW

adouglasmhor wrote: »

But if you constantly eat less you will also burn less. This has been known for years.

Only to a point.

Thrugelmir

breadlinebetty wrote: »

But I still don't understand why poorer people suffer from obesity while rich people tend not to?

Eating too much, i.e. calories is a trait of the Western world.

Being rich doesn't make one any more wiser.

breadlinebetty

PasturesNew wrote: »

They are when you realise they'll do for several meals and so you've got to eat swede for days... and "stuff" didn't mean stuff, it meant "other stuff" like peeling, chopping, boiling/roasting, waiting.... stuff.

It might take you 2 minutes, it takes me considerably more .... and the other things that go with it will probably end up taking longer too . Overall, most meals involving a swede would take 45-60 from start to cleaned up .... and a pizza's 12 minutes to cook and 5 to eat. Job done in under 20 minutes.

You can buy a swede not much bigger than a beef tomato - that's hardly huge - and I can't see how it would last you several meals. Have you tried turnips? They're even smaller

I'm afraid I have to disagree - a swede (start to finish) takes no longer than 20 minutes (4 minutes in a pressure cooker!) Mash that with a little butter and pepper, and bake a chicken thigh for 30 minutes, and you have a delicious nutritious meal in half an hour!

adouglasmhor

ILW wrote: »

Only to a point.

I really just mean there are no hard and fast rules, you eat to little and end up losing muscle and slowing your metabolism - so you burn less calories and store more as fat.

I do 5:2 intermediate fasting and mix it up exercise wise to stop my metabolism slowing.
I also try to eat at least 90% of my RDA on non fast days.

misskool

adouglasmhor wrote: »

You just said fruit before.

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom in not putting it in a fruit salad.

tomato jam is delicious.