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GCSE Maths question - Help...?

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  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    foofi22 wrote: »
    Yep, this is more A Level

    These days, you could be right!:rotfl:
  • whitewing
    whitewing Posts: 11,852 Forumite
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    I found it a very useful example of how maths can be applied to real life.
    :heartsmil When you find people who not only tolerate your quirks but celebrate them with glad cries of "Me too!" be sure to cherish them. Because these weirdos are your true family.
  • pooch
    pooch Posts: 828 Forumite
    Hi, my dad uses this site but i thought it might be a good place to ask this question..
    Please help me answer it, it's part of my homework and i cant understand it..
    I dont think the answer is 3/5, so..please help..

    4. Challenge!
    Simon ate 1/5 of a cake and his sister ate 1/4 of what was left.
    What fraction of the cake is now left? (hint: a diagram may help!)

    I understand the four rules of fractions, but this question is really annoying me..

    Have a nice day

    I understand how annoying some mathematical problems can be to solve, but there is a hint in the question to help you :)

    So lets use that hint and start by dividing a cake (or a pie as mathematicans always prefer!) into 5 equal pieces.

    pie1ad.jpg

    Now if Simon eats a piece, the remainder will look like this:

    pie2u.jpg

    If Simon's sister now eats a quarter of this, the remaining cake will look like this:

    pie3.jpg

    Which obviously leaves 3/5 of the original cake remaining :)
  • pooch
    pooch Posts: 828 Forumite
    mrcow wrote: »
    PS. I'm a maths boffin ;)

    Oh goody, perhaps you could supply the answer to this little question I have for my assignment :)

    mathsc.jpg
  • AnnBar
    AnnBar Posts: 75 Forumite
    Dunroamin wrote: »
    Isn't anyone else shocked that a question like this is being set at GCSE level?

    Yes. To me it should be primary 7 work!
  • LTL
    LTL Posts: 121 Forumite
    pooch wrote: »
    Oh goody, perhaps you could supply the answer to this little question I have for my assignment :)

    mathsc.jpg

    The trench is a "truncated pyramid"

    Area = Area of a trapezium * length = 1/2(a+b)hl

    a = 11 1/2
    b = 3 1/2
    h = 4
    l = 140

    Area = 1/2(11 1/2 + 3 1/2)* 4 * 140
    Area = 8,400 cu ft.

    Area of Cylinder = Pie * r squared * h (or in this case l)

    Area = 22/7 * 3/4 squared * 140
    Area = 247.50
    Rubble required = 8,400 - 247.50
    Rubble required = 8,152.50 cu ft.

    Weight = 28 tonnes = 551.155655462194 cwt
    1 cu ft. = 0.037037037 cu yds
    8,152.50 cu ft. = 301.9444 cu yds
    weight of 1 cu yd = 301.9444 / 551.155655462194
    Weight = 1.82535451853547
    Weight = 1.8 cwt to the nearest tenth of a cwt
  • LittleVoice
    LittleVoice Posts: 8,974 Forumite
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    pooch wrote: »
    Oh goody, perhaps you could supply the answer to this little question I have for my assignment :)

    mathsc.jpg

    Could I hazard a guess that that is part of a question from a GCE 'O'level paper from the 1960s?
  • agrinnall
    agrinnall Posts: 23,344 Forumite
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    Could I hazard a guess that that is part of a question from a GCE 'O'level paper from the 1960s?

    11 plus, 1954 :rotfl:
  • Rhenser
    Rhenser Posts: 69 Forumite
    edited 10 October 2012 at 10:30AM
    LTL wrote: »
    The trench is a "truncated pyramid"

    Area = Area of a trapezium * length = 1/2(a+b)hl

    a = 11 1/2
    b = 3 1/2
    h = 4
    l = 140

    Area = 1/2(11 1/2 + 3 1/2)* 4 * 140
    Area = 8,400 cu ft.

    Area of Cylinder = Pie * r squared * h (or in this case l)

    Area = 22/7 * 3/4 squared * 140
    Area = 247.50
    Rubble required = 8,400 - 247.50
    Rubble required = 8,152.50 cu ft.

    Weight = 28 tonnes = 551.155655462194 cwt
    1 cu ft. = 0.037037037 cu yds
    8,152.50 cu ft. = 301.9444 cu yds
    weight of 1 cu yd = 301.9444 / 551.155655462194
    Weight = 1.82535451853547
    Weight = 1.8 cwt to the nearest tenth of a cwt

    Wow! That much? :eek:
    I'm glad you don't work in our building company - we'll be bust by the end of the month if we went ordering that amount of rubble.

    Put the calculator down and think about the answer a little.

    The trench is 4 ft deep and, on average, less than 3ft wide.
    So lets assume, roughly, 10 cubic foot per foot of length to keep the numbers simple.
    Now the length is 140ft.

    So I would expect the total excavated volume to only be about 1400 cu.ft.
    Then there's the volume of the pipe to deduct, so an answer about 1150 cu.ft is what I would be expecting.

    But what do I know? I'm just a poor navvy.

    Btw, there were only 20 cwt to a ton when I went to school ;)
    Perhaps you've allowed for inflation? :D
  • LTL
    LTL Posts: 121 Forumite
    edited 10 October 2012 at 10:10AM
    Rhenser wrote: »
    Wow! That much? :eek:
    I'm glad you don't work in our building company - we'll be bust by the end of the month if we went ordering that amount of rubble.

    Put the calculator down and think about the answer a little.

    The trench is 4 ft deep and, on average, less than 3ft wide.
    So lets assume, roughly, 10 cubic foot per foot of length to keep the numbers simple.
    Now the length is 140ft.

    So I would expect the total excavated volume to only be about 1400 cu.ft.
    Then there's the volume of the pipe to deduct, so an answer about 1150 cu.ft is what I would be expecting.

    But what do I know? I'm just a poor navvy.

    Btw, there were only 20 cwt to a ton when I went to school ;)
    Perhaps you've allowed for inflation? :D


    OMG! I thought it said 11 1/2 ft at the bottom not 1 1/2 foot

    TO BE FAIR! You would need that much rubble for the ridiculously big hole I just made someone dig unnecessarily :D

    (how many cwt to tons could be different I guess as there could be a miscommunication between metric and imperial - get into the 21st century guys! :D )
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