is there a standard size toilet syphon?

longwalks1

My posh looking toilet came from Ebay about 7 years ago and does look great, but now it seems to conitnually flush after you flush it once (the only way of stopping it is to run the shower for a minute after flushing, guess it starves it of water for long enough to not fill completely again)

I was told by my local plumb centre, that as its a non standard model (i dont know what make etc it is, nothnig written on it), that it wont be a standard size syphon, might this be true? I want to try and get a spare part for it, without havingot drain it completley and pull it away from the wall as its wall mounted

Can you get universal fill/syphon kits for toilets to repair them?
Cheers

Buellguy

britishboy wrote: »

Can you get universal fill/syphon kits for toilets to repair them?
Cheers

You should be able to, try taking the siphon out and taking it down to the local plumbers merchants (rather than a big DIY place)

I could be something as simple as a knackered washer or dirt getting between the washer and inlet

southcoastrgi

do you have a pipe connecting the cistern with the wc pan ? is it a handle to flush or push button ie which one of these does it look like inside ?

keystone

britishboy wrote: »

My posh looking toilet came from Ebay about 7 years ago and does look great, but now it seems to conitnually flush after you flush it once (the only way of stopping it is to run the shower for a minute after flushing, guess it starves it of water for long enough to not fill completely again)

So is it the inlet valve which is causing the problem by not shutting off and the internal overflow sending water down into the pan or is it the flush valve?

I was told by my local plumb centre, that as its a non standard model (i dont know what make etc it is, nothnig written on it), that it wont be a standard size syphon, might this be true?

Standard plumbcentre numpty speak for I haven't got a clue so buy a whole new one please and stop bothering me.

I want to try and get a spare part for it, without havingot drain it completley and pull it away from the wall as its wall mounted

If its the flush valve then the cistern will have to come off thepan and off the wall if its close coupled. If its a low level WC ( very visible flush pipe between bottom of cistern and pan) you may be able to replace the flush valve without taking the cistern off the wall but you should replace the flush cone whilst you are at it. If it is the fluish valve then you WILL have to drain the cistern whether to repair or replace.

Can you get universal fill/syphon kits for toilets to repair them?

Can you identify the type you have as requested by South coast? The some of the latter type are height adjustable so in general there is no reason why you can't get one to fit.

Cheers

longwalks1

Cheers All

Southcoastrgi
no pipe connecting the toliet and the cistern, the cistern is slim and tall and actually sits on the back of the toilet itself. And it has dual push buttons to flush (I think the inside of the toilet looks like the 2nd picture you posted) 1 is half flush, the larger button does full flush. I cant see in there a normal ball-valve (is that right name for it?), in older toilets used to have a large red/orange plastic floating ball that controlled the fill level, my one doesnt have that

longwalks1

keystone wrote: »

So is it the inlet valve which is causing the problem by not shutting off and the internal overflow sending water down into the pan or is it the flush valve?

Standard plumbcentre numpty speak for I haven't got a clue so buy a whole new one please and stop bothering me.

If its the flush valve then the cistern will have to come off thepan and off the wall if its close coupled. If its a low level WC ( very visible flush pipe between bottom of cistern and pan) you may be able to replace the flush valve without taking the cistern off the wall but you should replace the flush cone whilst you are at it. If it is the fluish valve then you WILL have to drain the cistern whether to repair or replace.

Can you identify the type you have as requested by South coast? The some of the latter type are height adjustable so in general there is no reason why you can't get one to fit.

Cheers

when i take the top off and flush it, the water level fills, gets to about 95% full when it would normally stop, but it doesnt and it slowly trickles over into the internal overflow sending more water into the pan itself, but at a trickling rate not a full power flush. The trickling will go on for hours until you run the shower for a minute or 2

Canucklehead

Hi.

Service the fill valve.

Get someone in if you can't do it yourslf.

GSR.

southcoastrgi

as CH says either replace the washer in the fill valve/ballvalve/inlet valve what ever the correct name is this week, or fit a new one, you will need to turn the water off to do either but even if you replace it you should be able to do this without removing the cistern from the pan

keystone

britishboy wrote: »

when i take the top off and flush it, the water level fills, gets to about 95% full when it would normally stop, but it doesnt and it slowly trickles over into the internal overflow sending more water into the pan itself, but at a trickling rate not a full power flush. The trickling will go on for hours until you run the shower for a minute or 2

Yes its an inlet valve problem not a flush valve problem. Forget anything about the syphon - replace the diaphragm in the inlet valve. If its a torbeck type like this:



you'll find it behind the topmost blue knurled nut..

If its a fluidmaster type:



its to be found under the top cap.

Cheers