URGENT Housing Association, threaten to remove my car from residents car park

TrickyWicky

forgotmyname wrote: »

What if they gave notice that on Monday the 29th the car park must be vacated for essential repairs any vehicles causing an obstruction will be moved to the highway?

Theft and the op could not be done for the tax if they never moved it and have proof that the company said they would move it by force (not that they even have the right).

I suspect there may be a few sets of gojaks going on ebay soon too.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

mikey72 wrote: »

Buy a disc, in a couple of weeks send a V33 back to the dvla for a refund, declare the disc lost, leave the now invalid disc in the car. Drop it down the screen, so it's visible, but no longer stuck to the glass. Cost you a months tax, everyone is happy, don't use the car on the road or then you will be in trouble.
When you want the car back on the road, bin the bogus disc, buy a new one.

whats the point?


jeeze. alot of people would let their HA roll over them and alow them to take a vehicle of thiers.

i wouldnt.

because they have no authority to take it.

they can enforce a breach of tenancy through the courts.

but as storing isnt mentioned in there nore is the vehicle having to be road legal what breach has been made?

if the bay is marked and allocated to that address, then someone else parking in it would also result in a breach of that persons agreement aswell.

the outcome the HA want is a free bay not to be used so it looks good?


i have a settee on the side of my house, i have no means of taking it away myself, and i refuse to pay my council £30 per large item (a arm chair is defined as large item in their terms), My HA has told me it needs to be removed, i agree it needs to be removed but i cant do it myself and need my family to help so when someone is free to do it for me it will stay there unfortunatly, they came round not so long ago and took pictures of it, and knocked on my door about it, i wasnt rude apologetic infact that its been there for a while but i am disabled and cant move it, the HA were telling becuase i am in breach of my tenancy they have already made arrangements with a contractor to collect it, costing me £55.00, i told them that if they remove the item and charged me for it i would call police as that is theft as soon as they attempt to remove it, because eventhough the item breaches my tenancy the item is owned by me, if they wish to enforce the agreement they should go to court, the lady went off on her phone and called her (HA'S) legal department for advice, she returned saying that the contractor has been cancelled as it seemed i was right, taking my property eventhough in breach of tenancy constituted to theft and the propper channels to follow would be to give me 28 days notice to remove them then proceed to court to enforce the tenancy agreement, wich would mean only after a court judgement would they be able to collect the item and then charge me for it.

there are many many clauses in the tenancy agreements, but only a handfull can be enforced without going to court.

take a home stereo for instance, you play it load everyday the HA write to you about it but firmly ignored, they turn up, to talk to you about it, but you do nothing about you stereo, can they come into your home regardless if your there or not and take away and store your stereo, charge you for new locks or a new door to gain entry, and carriage charges for transporting it to the storage unit? after all your in breach of you tenancy agreement? NO they cant and the same here that cant take that car away they have to go to court to have the tenency agreement clause enforced.

mikey72

Alot to think about.
Post back up in a week, and tell us what happened.

TrickyWicky

mikey72 wrote: »

Buy a disc, in a couple of weeks send a V33 back to the dvla for a refund, declare the disc lost, leave the now invalid disc in the car. Drop it down the screen, so it's visible, but no longer stuck to the glass. Cost you a months tax, everyone is happy, don't use the car on the road or then you will be in trouble.
When you want the car back on the road, bin the bogus disc, buy a new one.

Thats tax disc fraud and could get the op into trouble with the Magistrates.

Please don't advise something like that again.

TrickyWicky

mikey72 wrote: »

Alot to think about.
Post back up in a week, and tell us what happened.

No there is not a lot to think about. The HA have no right to remove the vehicle and no legal power to do so either.

It's as simple as that. They may refuse to believe it however they soon will when the police become involved for theft and immobilisation of a vehicle.

Seriously, along with telling the op to commit VEL fraud, you really need to get a grip of yourself mikey. I know you think you're trying to help but you're really not doing very well at it.

mikey72

TrickyWicky wrote: »

No there is not a lot to think about. The HA have no right to remove the vehicle and no legal power to do so either.

It's as simple as that. They may refuse to believe it however they soon will when the police become involved for theft and immobilisation of a vehicle.

Seriously, along with telling the op to commit VEL fraud, you really need to get a grip of yourself mikey. I know you think you're trying to help but you're really not doing very well at it.

I've noticed your armchair lawyer advice is very good, providing it's playing brinkmanship with someone elses property.
No doubt you'll be posting on the two pepipoo links I put up telling them it couldn't have happened?
You also know you're talking rubbish, the police will say it's a civil matter, and that'll be it for the day.
Simple as that.
Once again you're starting to mess in someone elses real world here tricky.

(and no one has mentioned immobilisation, please don't try to muddy the water)

mikey72

TrickyWicky wrote: »

Thats tax disc fraud and could get the op into trouble with the Magistrates.

Please don't advise something like that again.

How?
Vehicle's not on a public road, the disc has been declared lost, it's obvious it had fallen off the windscreen.
No intention to commit fraud, and a new disc will be bought before the car is used again.
Please don't talk nonsense.

TrickyWicky

mikey, tax disc fraud is a serious offence yet you seem to think that you're the man for recommending it and that I'm a moron for speaking sensibly.

I have no intention of posting on pepipoo about those two threads. I've read them and believed them however they were from before the 1st October weren't they. That changes things somewhat you silly billy.

As for playing brinkmanship with someone elses property, in case you didn't bother reading the full facts in this thread (as usual) you would have noticed I've been in this boat myself a while back. I had implied threats of all sorts. I dealt with the council in writing and had them absolutely cornered. They never knew what had hit them. Needless to say they back tracked extremely quickly and avoided answering many awkward questions before getting themselves into further hot water.

If you think I've not got a clue, think again.

mikey72

Ah, my little tricky, it wasn't legal then, and surprisingly, it's still not legal.
So?
I guess you think it'll stop because it only happens twice in happy world.

So, are you going to step up for the op, and the ha won't know what hit them as well?
No doubt you would have a car park full of police with lights and sirens as soon as you see the tow truck?

Or is this thread that it for you, you can play from a distance, knowing your car is safe?

I don't really think it matters if I think you have a clue, and I'm sure even you can guess my opinion.

It really depends on whether on not the op wants to back your clue and stake his car on it.

Particularly as most of your argument depends on a threat of immobilising the car which hasn’t been suggested, and your "victory" concerned parking on a mates drive, which only you could draw a comparison to with this case.

TrickyWicky

mikey72 wrote: »

Ah, my little tricky, it wasn't legal then, and surprisingly, it's still not legal.
So?
I guess you think it'll stop because it only happens twice in happy world.

I've already said I am not going to comment on those topics. What NCP do in their over zealous belief that they are the law is down to them. They're cowboys and thats the very reason they've never done court with their PCCNs.

mikey72 wrote: »

So, are you going to step up for the op, and the ha won't know what hit them as well?

Why should I? The op is clearly capable of it themselves.

mikey72 wrote: »

No doubt you would have a car park full of police with lights and sirens as soon as you see the tow truck?

No need. As already suggested, fit your own wheel clamp, that'll have them scratching their heads for a bit.

Again though, the police have already advised the op on the situation regarding this. but I don't suppose you read that did you.

mikey72 wrote: »

Or is this thread that it for you, you can play from a distance, knowing your car is safe?

Nothing to do with it really, I'm trying to help the op. You're the one trying to get them doing dodgy stuff with tax discs.

mikey72 wrote: »

I don't really think it matters if I think you have a clue, and I'm sure even you can guess my opinion.

I wouldn't waste my time trying to guess.

mikey72 wrote: »

your "victory" concerned parking on a mates drive, which only you could draw a comparison to with this case.

See here you go again making stuff up and jumping to conclusions. It wasn't a mates drive. It was someone who I'd only spoken to about 3 times (an elderly person). Same deal applies, because its a big residential car park. The elderly neighbour owned their two spaces but someone else decided to report the car to the council. You know.. the council who CAN remove abandoned vehicles.

In the banger thread you said:

mikey72 wrote: »

I know cars inside out.

In other words you sound like a back street mechanic who likes to think he knows about everything else motoring related.

Some of the advice you give around here mikey is spot on OR simply funny and thats why you're not on my ignore list however I won't be responding to you in this topic any further.