jobcentre asking for friends national insurance number?

princessdon

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

a NINO is private and confidential to that individual anyone asking me for mine would result in a flat no in this case.

is he or in a relatioship with someone else? this would disprove that your a couple living together.

ultimately it is upto him if he wishes to disclose this information.

if he doesnt then it not you fault you cant provide this information regarding what they have requested.

they have to prove your a couple not the other way round.

but if they are not a couple and this can help prove it, then drawing out a longer investigation isn't wise.

If a friend said to me "hey they think we are a couple and want your NINO" - It wouldn't bother me one iota.

I'd see it as a favour to them to help assist speedily.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

princessdon wrote: »

but if they are not a couple and this can help prove it, then drawing out a longer investigation isn't wise.

If a friend said to me "hey they think we are a couple and want your NINO" - It wouldn't bother me one iota.

I'd see it as a favour to them to help assist speedily.

but if he is a private indevidual, eventhough a friend of the OP's he cant be forced to disclose that information he could simply say they have no right nor the buisiness to ask for my NINO.

von

You are not obliged to provide someone else's confidential information to support your claim for benefit (although you may know his date date of birth it is up to him whether he wishes you to disclose it to the DWP).
I suggest you tell them his name and his age and let them know that you don't know the rest and/or don't feel that you have the right to disclose this information.

By supplying or not supplying this information does not prove they are or are not a couple. The only way the DWP can find that out initially is through a living together interview with the OP.

There are ways the DWP can find out who is living at the OP's address other than asking the OP for the other person's date of birth and NI Number.

missapril75

von wrote: »

By supplying or not supplying this information does not prove they are or are not a couple.

Well it might. You'd be surprised what it could reveal.

The only way the DWP can find that out initially is through a living together interview with the OP.

One way, not the only way. Do you think they'd conduct a LT interview if once they have the information they see that there is an age difference of 50 years for example?

That's one of a number of things that could indicate absence of LT once they have the details.

There are ways the DWP can find out who is living at the OP's address other than asking the OP for the other person's date of birth and NI Number.

Yes there are. But if his name is John Smith, there will be thousands of search results of John Smiths to look at before finding one with the same address. If he was on benefits as well, it would be a bit easier but he's working.

Dunroamin

Being obstructive in a simple matter like this just looks as if the people involved have something to hide.

von

I reiterate that you are not obliged to supply anything other than his name.

missapril I'm not sure i agree with some of your comments to my post but that's immaterial.

DCFC79

Don't just give his NINO and db, ask him what it is when you next see him.

Mojisola

Advice from the government -

https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/Taxes/BeginnersGuideToTax/NationalInsurance/IntroductiontoNationalInsurance/DG_190048

You will have to give your National Insurance number to:
HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC)
your employer
Department for Work and Pensions (which includes Jobcentre Plus and Pension, Disability and Carers Service), if you claim state benefits
your local council, if you claim Housing Benefit
the Student Loans Company, if you apply for a student loan
You also have to give your National Insurance number if you open an Individual Savings Account (ISA).

It's very important you keep your number safe and don't give it to anyone who does not need it. This will help prevent identity fraud - follow the second link below to find out more about protecting your identity.

I would tell them that, following government advice, he isn't willing to tell a flatmate his NI number. I would suggest the DWP writes to him directly and asks if he's willing to give it to them.

System

I have to admit i have no idea what my flatmates NI number is, when they came round and did a LT interview with me they never asked for it either. Thankfully my flatmate is in a serious relationship (not with me! lol) but i asked him after and he got a bit touchy about it as as far as he is concerned my benefit claim is nothing to do with him so his details are none of their business so i can understand the reluctance to provide such details

missapril75

I must admit this idea that the NINO is nothing to do with the department actually responsible for its issue in the first place and maintaining the accouint attached to it is rather amusing.


(I am aware that it's HMRC now responsible for issue but that is only a recent thing and the applications are still done by DWP with DSS prior to the name change doing it for about 50 years)