Yet more Evidence that the Coalition is incompetent

Conrad

Generali wrote: »

This is a spending Government,

The problem is that wages generally rise faster than inflation so if you are running an organisation that is a large employer, like the Government, then your costs tend to run ahead of inflation. If you also can't make efficiency savings because strong unions won't let you then you face a choice between increasing taxes or borrowing every year in real terms.

Clearly that's a finite proposition when GDP is flat or falling.

Just listen to PMQ's and tonights Question Time (IF POSS DOWN UNDER?) how anyone of the left just has this starting assumption we are naturally entitled to so many things we cannot pay

The very same type also deny Chinese and other workers these very entitlments by thier habit of seeking lowest cost work forces thru thier endless shopping around for mse style bargains.

kabayiri

Generali wrote: »

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The problem is that wages generally rise faster than inflation so if you are running an organisation that is a large employer, like the Government, then your costs tend to run ahead of inflation. If you also can't make efficiency savings because strong unions won't let you then you face a choice between increasing taxes or borrowing every year in real terms.

Clearly that's a finite proposition when GDP is flat or falling.

No one will admit it, but state jobs cost more than private sector jobs nowadays. Also, there are inbuilt increases as people move up the scale, unaffected by the well publicised pay freeze.

The last government grew the state by over a million jobs, and we are picking up the tab. Profligacy effects can obviously linger.

kabayiri

Conrad wrote: »

Labour had a much better record;

• Expenses gravy train allowed to trundle on
• Highest proportion of teen pregnacy
• Highest proportion of children living in wrokless households :mad:
• Replaced wealth creation with private and public debt to fill the void
• Refusal to carry out unannounced visits on care homes, with many disasterous consequences
• 2 pointless wars
• Foreign prisoners never deported - no attempt at it
• Wrong kit for troops in theatre
• Wrong helicopter strategy
• Clown ignoring working classes being put out of work by armies of Poles
• Manufactuing halved
• Public sector non jobs abounded
• Repeated failure in child protection - over and again councils saying 'lessons must be learned'
• H&S culture permeated every egg n spoon race
• Odious claims culture (typical of a 'my rights' political landscape)
• Cherries dodgy deveoper dealings
• Eccleston's dondgy donations
• 3 Asian Labour peers thrown out for fraud simultaneously
• Mandelsons bent mortgage applications
• The Geoffry Robinson debarcle
• Patricia Hewitt slow clapped by nurses
• Not fit for purpose home office - 6 MINISTERS IN 7 YEARS!!
• £20bn on the NHS failed computer
• Overspending well before the crunch
• Epic mismanagment of contracts
• Growth of the odious 'oooman rights' landscape so beloved of all those we want rid of
• Sucking up to Europe, with spineless subservience (Danny ALexander)
• 66 stealth taxes
• Selling our gold when price was lowest
• Mass raid on private pensions
• Tuition fees introduced despite the promise not to
• Soft on school bullies
• Allowing many dangerous offenders out who re - offended (remember the 3 yo kidnapped near river 7), thanks to ooman rights and so on
• Biggest gap between rich n poor
• School guidance 600 pages long, compared to Swedens 12 pages (classic interference)
• Hospital super bug - lessons not learned over and again
• Youth unemployment doubled from 2004 to 2009
• Worst cancer survival outcomes in Europe

Can you get that on a t-shirt and have it look snazzy?

You will sell buckets of them round the shires. :rotfl:

I'll get you Mary Portas's number if you want.

chewmylegoff

Generali wrote: »

(although that doesn't mean they would have f'd up the train thing of course, not that similar).

although the same civil servants would still have been responsible for overseeing the bidding process and recommending which bid be accepted, so it is actually quite likely that exactly the same thing would have happened whichever party was in charge.

Generali

Conrad wrote: »

Just listen to PMQ's and tonights Question Time (IF POSS DOWN UNDER?) how anyone of the left just has this starting assumption we are naturally entitled to so many things we cannot pay

I occasionally listen to PMQs online. QT is verboten to we poor colonialists as we genuflect before our betters in the Mother Country.

Generali

kabayiri wrote: »

Can you get that on a t-shirt and have it look snazzy?

You will sell buckets of them round the shires. :rotfl:

I'll get you Mary Portas's number if you want.

It would be the ideal slogan to put on someone's T-Shirt who is a part of the obesity epidemic.

Conrad

kabayiri wrote: »

Can you get that on a t-shirt and have it look snazzy?

You will sell buckets of them round the shires. :rotfl:

I'll get you Mary Portas's number if you want.

Thing is, that was quick off the top of my head, I think we could run to drapes with this.

It does amaze me how very quickly people forget the last lots many guffs. Somthing in the way Human Beings are construted to filter out negativity.

Wookster

We have our very own version of comical ali here.

There is a very simple question that no labour die hard has answered: Why did Labour run a deficit from 2002 to 2007 and leave the public finances in the worst possible state when the credit crunch hit?

Generali

Wookster wrote: »

We have our very own version of comical ali here.

There is a very simple question that no labour die hard has answered: Why did Labour run a deficit from 2002 to 2007 and leave the public finances in the worst possible state when the credit crunch hit?

The reason given at the time was because they were following the Golden Rule. They could borrow during the period 2002-7 because when the good times came they could repay the debt.

Surely I'm not the only one that remembers the 2002-7 depression?

Gracchus_Babeuf

Wookster wrote: »

We have our very own version of comical ali here.

There is a very simple question that no labour die hard has answered: Why did Labour run a deficit from 2002 to 2007 and leave the public finances in the worst possible state when the credit crunch hit?

Because Labour was led by a smiling idiot: Tony Blair. Hopefully the lesson has been learned. But running a deficit is not necessarily a bad thing - we have credit cards and use them, so why can't the state? What is the key here is how the money is used. And Blair wasted it on pointless IT programmes and making UK doctors the best paid in Europe (God knows why). Blair was all show and no substance but the British people voted him in, so doesn't that tell you something?

I'm no more a Labour die-hard than I am a Tory one. My issue is that shutting the door once the horse has bolted won't do any good. What we need is some extreme plan for austerity but a controlled long term project for reducing the debt burden while boosting the economy.