NFH drumming - need advice!

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  • daska
    daska Posts: 6,212 Forumite
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    If you want things to be awkward for him you could also report him to HMRC for tax evasion. And JC+ for theft (aka fraud). (Though it is possible to claim JSA and work.) If he is earning and not declaring it he'll be in trouble with both.
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  • floss2
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    Fire_Fox wrote: »
    ....The police do not deal with noise complaints any more, you can report abuse or threats tho.

    Depends which force and what they regard as ASB, which this is. ASB covers all manner of things, excessive / persistent noise included, and defying a noise abatement order in a social housing property could result in an ASB eviction taking place.
  • Edwardia
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    Your parents need to keep a noise diary. They need to call the council's Environmental Health department and ask for someone to come out and witness the noise every time it occurs, day (or night - so they need to convince the council that they should go on the after office hours and weekends call out list).

    If your parents have visitors ask the council if they can witness noise too.

    It's not admissible in court but they can record the noise in their own house to show council how often it occurs.

    Get parents to write to the HA head office specifically listing how he is breaking his tenancy agreement, telling them that warden is ineffective (give examples) and that they have contacted council.

    If he gives YOU any aggro call police on 101 ask their advice as they will at least log call. If it was on public pavement and he was swearing that's a public order offence so tell them. Police may send a PCSO to talk to you and him. But DO log it and get a CAD number.

    If your parents have a local PCSO suggest they get in touch just for support but make sure parents realise that they should call the police if any aggro and that they need to get the CAD reference number for the call and put it in diary.

    If the council is unable to get someone out to your parents ask them to call the police on 101 and ask for a CAD number, explaining that council can't get someone out and they want to log it. If your parents can put police on speaker, officer should be able to hear the drumming and s/he can note that. Then they should call back when it stops and ask to add time stopped to CAD number.

    If they contact PCSO direct they won't get CAD number and none of the incidents will be linked together. Don't listen to PCSOs saying call them direct, it goes no further than their notebook.

    Resist sound meter it's a last resort, you need officers in to witness.
  • floss2
    floss2 Posts: 8,030 Forumite
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    Edwardia wrote: »
    .....they need to convince the council that they should go on the after office hours and weekends call out list.....

    This will probably only happen after the OP's parents have been visited and assessed by the noise officers - most councils will not put residents onto this list without the officers concerned actually having witnessed the noise.
    Edwardia wrote: »
    .....Resist sound meter it's a last resort, you need officers in to witness.

    No you don't. Sound measuring & recording equipment can be left in situ in a property for measuring of persistent repetitive noise.

    Experienced noise officers from the Environmental Health or Noise Abatement teams will be able to give proper advice dependant uopn the service provided in the OP's area.
  • Fire_Fox
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    edited 2 October 2012 at 6:14PM
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    floss2 wrote: »
    Depends which force and what they regard as ASB, which this is. ASB covers all manner of things, excessive / persistent noise included, and defying a noise abatement order in a social housing property could result in an ASB eviction taking place.

    Defying a noise abatement order is no longer simply a noise complaint! This case has not even reached the first hurdle of being reported to Environmental Health, let alone there being any court orders to enforce or a possible eviction for the police to supervise.
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