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Gas and electric what tarrif shall I go on direct debit monthly

delta4
delta4 Posts: 74 Forumite
Currently paying quarterly and we will be having it on at least 6-10 in the morning and then again at 3-4pm until 9-10. Not sure yet since I am pregnant will be staying at home more.

3 bedroom very small semi, radiators are old and are being changed sometimes in next few months.Not sure when.

Need helping deciding what to do looking to pay at least 60-70 pm for gas and maybe 40 for electric since we don't use much.

any advice thanks

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  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    There is no 'universal best tariff', it depends on usage and region. Put your annual kWh figures (not your monthly DD amounts) into any accredited comp site and see what comes up best.
    A budget of £110 per month would suggest that your consumption is far from low-it's around the national average.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • jalexa
    jalexa Posts: 3,448 Forumite
    edited 29 September 2012 at 10:26PM
    delta4 wrote: »
    Need helping deciding what to do looking to pay at least 60-70 pm for gas and maybe 40 for electric since we don't use much.

    Enter 16,500 gas and 3,300 electricity in a comparison website. The % saving figures and listing order will be about right for quite a range of actual consumption.

    There are other issues, mind you, such as fixed or variable tariffs. Ask again.
  • Paying quarterly is always the most expensive no matter who your with. I work for an energy company so I see it every day. By paying DD you'd probably save 5 - 10% (sometimes more) and you have more options to opt in for certain packages (discounted ones) ... if your worried about the monthly amount, most companies like scottish power etc review your direct debit amount every quarter, or you can call them every time you have a reading and they should recalculate it for you :) Good luck x
  • SandA
    SandA Posts: 393 Forumite
    Ive managed to get some comparisons on my usage, can someone help me work out how much I should be paying?

    On average, in the last 30 days I have used -

    204 daytime electricity units
    44 nighttime electricity units
    64 gas units.

    It says on my bill -
    Electricity - First 720 kilowatt-hours each year - 20.327p each, after that, 11.316p per year.
    Gas - First 2680 kilowatt hours each year - 8.244p, then 4.070p after that.

    I don't understand how ive used much more electric then gas, my boiler is obviously gas, we run hot water a lot, the oven and hob are also gas.

    The only thing we really run on electric is fridge, freezer, dryer (just got that though), mini fridge in our room, telly's, laptop, microwave, kettle. We dont really use anything else.

    Can anyone figure out what I should be paying 'estimate' per month based on my usage in the last 30 days?

    Also, should I be using more gas then electric, found it strange how for electric the fee is reduced after 720 units, but for gas its after 2680 units, kind of like they expect you to use a lot more gas then electric if that makes sense?

    Thanks!
  • jalexa
    jalexa Posts: 3,448 Forumite
    edited 30 September 2012 at 6:14PM
    SandA wrote: »
    I don't understand how ive used much more electric then gas, my boiler is obviously gas, we run hot water a lot, the oven and hob are also gas.

    To convert the gas meter reading to kWhrs (for billing) you need to multiply by 11.2 for a metric meter or by 32 for an imperial meter.

    Assuming you have a metric meter you have used 11.2 x 64 = 717 kWhrs for the month of September. A rough seasonal adjustment suggests an annual use of about 17,100 kWhrs, very slightly above average consumption.

    A similar rough calculation for your electricity suggest an annual consumption of 3,263 kWhrs, i.e. a tad under average consumption.

    If you continue to take monthly readings the accuracy of the estimate will improve but monthly budgeting now for "average" consumption would be a good start. If you do a comparison you will find more and more tariffs are daily standing charge plus a single unit rate. For your consumption there is no cost difference but you might find daily standing charge easier to understand.


    I'll leave the obvious issue with having E7 and gas to the usual suspects.
  • SandA
    SandA Posts: 393 Forumite
    In the last 45 days we've used 64 units of gas, so based on that it would be =
    64 x 11.2 = 716kwh, then based on my bill, its 0.8244p per kwh, so thats 590 pound? lol? I presume thats just the calculator though and its more like 59 pound? i hope!
  • Hi OP,

    Are you sure it isn't 0.08244p cos 82p per kwh is very high 8p is more likely which would be £59.

    Gem
  • jalexa
    jalexa Posts: 3,448 Forumite
    SandA wrote: »
    In the last 45 days we've used 64 units of gas,

    Make up your mind.:D I calculated for 30 days because that is what you said in your last post.
  • SandA
    SandA Posts: 393 Forumite
    Oh sorry, i thought I was on my thread i posted earlier! posted that in the wrong thread, my bad.
  • SandA
    SandA Posts: 393 Forumite
    Sorry ive just confused myself, probably along with everyone else. All my comments in this thread - I thought I was on my own thread, oops! sorry OP, not trying to hijack your thread. Ive worked out in 45 days ive used 96 units of gas, so i divided by 3 and x 2 to get 64 on average for 30 days, hope that makes sense. And it says 0.8244p per kwh on my bill.

    thanks
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