MSE News: Card fraud up as criminals try simple scams

Former_MSE_Darryl

"Debit and credit card fraud is up as criminals return to old-fashioned ways to swipe people's plastic..."

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Card fraud up as criminals try simple scams

Pincher

Do we think it's ironic that Virgin Media calls me up and want to confirm my identity by asking for the full password? When I insist on only giving selected letters, they tell me to call back if I don't trust them. And then they try to sell me a mobile contract!

harvey115

Pincher wrote: »

Do we think it's ironic that Virgin Media calls me up and want to confirm my identity by asking for the full password? When I insist on only giving selected letters, they tell me to call back if I don't trust them. And then they try to sell me a mobile contract!

They think we are virgins LOL

dalesrider

MSE_Darryl wrote: »

Card fraud up as criminals try simple scams

Another scam involves phoning an elderly person, pretending to be from their bank, and claiming their card needs collecting and they need to key in their PIN.
A courier is then sent to pick up the card, which is delivered to the fraudster.

Is hardly a simple scam.... As it puts them in a high risk situation.
It also involved them blocking the phone line and having a way to pull the pin from the tones, as they ask said person to enter their PIN into the phone key pad
:mad:HOW MANY TIMES DO BANKS HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE THEY NEVER ASK FOR YOUR PIN :mad:

I also think that this artical is highly discriminatory. As it is not just one age group that is targeted.

dtaylor84

dalesrider wrote: »

Is hardly a simple scam.... As it puts them in a high risk situation.

Most scams do.

It also involved them blocking the phone line

I'm not sure what you mean? It involves them making a phone call, nothing more.

and having a way to pull the pin from the tones, as they ask said person to enter their PIN into the phone key pad

Absolutely nothing difficult about that. You could probably do it all with a mobile phone these days. Just use the phone record the call and there's probably an app that can decode DTMF -- if not there is certainly plenty free software on the internet that can.

zerog

Pincher wrote: »

Do we think it's ironic that Virgin Media calls me up and want to confirm my identity by asking for the full password? When I insist on only giving selected letters, they tell me to call back if I don't trust them. And then they try to sell me a mobile contract!

Lloyd sblocked a payment for "security", but I got it unblocked by giving them nothing but my driving licence number (which I did not give during the application, or ever) and other information which can be read off by anyone who steals my licence.

dalesrider

dtaylor84 wrote: »

Most scams do.
I'm not sure what you mean? It involves them making a phone call, nothing more.

And sending someone to pick up the card. Who will then have to drop it off. A very high risk if the other party is savy enough to spot a scam and call the police.
Not a simple. Hi I'm microsoft and you have a virus. I can deal with this if you give me your card details and scam £100 on your card.

dtaylor84 wrote: »

Absolutely nothing difficult about that. You could probably do it all with a mobile phone these days. Just use the phone record the call and there's probably an app that can decode DTMF -- if not there is certainly plenty free software on the internet that can.

Can't say much on this, but this goes far deeper than simply picking up cards and getting numpty to give them the PIN. Some are going so much further that it is beyond scary. They are in effect taking over the line and pretending to be whoever the party is calling..

So folks. ALWAYS MAKE SURE YOU GET A DIALING TONE....

chattychappy

dalesrider wrote: »

ALWAYS MAKE SURE YOU GET A DIALING TONE....

I suppose even that can be faked...

Narc

Banks call you and immediately ask security details to proceed with the call - there are few ways of knowing if it is genuine. Obviously asking for PINs etc. is a red flag though.

Button89

hi, today i went round to visit my mother, on the off chance she asked me if i had bought anything from amazon. i said no, and she went all quiet and pulled out her recent bank statement. her new card that had been sent in july had been used on amazon from the 3/08 to the 3/09 on 17 different transactions totalling just under £115. they were all little transactions that she wouldnt notice from quickly balance checking at a cash machine. i called santander, and they confirmed which card it was. i blocked the card for her, and was than told to call amazon. the first person i spoke to just didnt understand that she didnt have an amazon account, and that her card had been used unlawfully. she kept placing me on hold till she hung up. the second understood, but we were than disconnected. the third was very helpful as all though charges and billing were closed, she suggested that i register my mums card on my account so than she would be able to see what other accounts the card was connected to. my phone had than died so i called off my partners, and had to re expalin and than tell them about the idea my pervious helper suggested. they are meant to be calling me back tomorrow to help sort this at 6 after calling charges when they open.

just wanted to know if anyone else had experienced anything like this before with amazon.

amiehall

You don't need to spend your time chasing amazon. Call Santander, make sure they know that all the transactions were unauthorised. Let them deal with it for you. They're required to refund the money immediately.