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'Expect to be shot if you burgle gun owners' - Judge says
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HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9569359/Expect-to-be-shot-if-you-burgle-gun-owners-judge-warns-criminals.html'Expect to be shot if you burgle gun owners', judge warns criminals
A judge has defended the rights of people to protect their homes, telling two burglars shot during a break-in: “That is the chance you take.”
Joshua O’Gorman and Daniel Mansell were blasted with a legally-held shotgun after they smashed their way into the isolated rural home of a businessman, Andy Ferrie, and his wife Tracey last month.
The two men, who have a string of convictions between them, were arrested when they arrived at hospital seeking treatment for their injuries. Mr and Mrs Ferrie were also arrested and questioned for more than 40 hours on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm. They were later released without charge.
O’Gorman and Mansell appeared at Leicester Crown Court where they were both jailed for four years after admitting burglary.
In a move welcomed by justice campaigners, Judge Michael Pert QC, told the pair they could not expect any leniency simply because they had been wounded in the incident.
He told them: “If you burgle a house in the country where the householder owns a legally-held shotgun, that is the chance you take. You cannot come to court and ask for a lighter sentence because of it.”
Good to see common sense prevailing in this country at last.
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You are reduced to this?Retail is the only therapy that works0
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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9569359/Expect-to-be-shot-if-you-burgle-gun-owners-judge-warns-criminals.html
Good to see common sense prevailing in this country at last.
And who decides who can have shotguns so they too can protect their homes..
Yet another dumb statement from Hamish0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »...Good to see common sense prevailing in this country at last.
"this country"???? Scotland?
No Hamish. The Common Sense to which you refer is in England.
If you want common sense in Scotland, you will have to talk to that nice little rotund Mr Salmon and get him to legislate for it.
You already have a dirk in your socks, surely. May I suggest one of those Alt-A Hand Grenades in the sporran? You never know when it might come in handy.0 -
I think the point was that the burglars asked for leniency on the basis that they'd been shot in the aris. The judge said no.0
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homelessskilledworker wrote: »And who decides who can have shotguns so they too can protect their homes..
Yet another dumb statement from Hamish
He isn't saying they should have shotguns 'to' protect their homes he is saying what the judge said was common sense, that those who burgle people who happen to already own shotguns should expect problems. In answer to your question:
http://www.shooters.co.uk/applying_licence.htmChuck Norris can kill two stones with one birdThe only time Chuck Norris was wrong was when he thought he had made a mistakeChuck Norris puts the "laughter" in "manslaughter".I've started running again, after several injuries had forced me to stop0 -
homelessskilledworker wrote: »And who decides who can have shotguns so they too can protect their homes..
Yet another dumb statement from Hamish
I wonder if a small part of the decision making process should be an analysis of online social networking platforms.
Owners of accounts who "go off on one" with abusive and threatening behaviour towards, for example, politicians, minor celebrities and banking institutions, really shouldn't be given guns.
A mood swing with a keyboard is very different to a mood swing with a shotgun.0 -
I'd have thought the gun licencing people would be the ones who decide who can have a gun. That's probbaly me being "bullish" again.
I think it's great that the bloke didn't get charged for shooting them.This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
This doesn't mean you can shoot your tenants if they don't let you evict them McTavish.0
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Surely, then, the same logic applies to kitchen knives, bare electrified cabling, axes, power tools, broken bottles... yes?Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.- Mark TwainArguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon: no matter how good you are at chess, its just going to knock over the pieces and strut around like its victorious.0
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