Am I on a fair wage?

Russe11

The simple solution to payrises is to find posistions that pay more and move companies to achieve higher wages.

denla

Juneau333 wrote: »

I work 37.5 hours, but the extra hours I do are normally out of office.

My main roles are to:

Manage the servers
Manage the phone system/fax system/other electronic systems (such as BES)
Provide support for our business application SAP
Write SQL queries for SAP (only just started doing this since being sent on a Microsoft course by my company)
Provide support for our Warehouse Management System
Provide support for mostly all other electronic/technological issues in the business

I work alongside another guy in IT (he's been there for nearly 3 years), who I know has just had his appraisal and gone from 23k to 26k per year. He definitely has more knowledge then me, but I don't think his contribution to the business is double what mine is.

My qualifications are:

IT PROCOM Level 3 (finished as part of my apprenticeship)
OCR Extended National Diploma in ICT Level 3 (done at college)
Microsoft SQL Query Writing (finished this August)

I love working for the company though, and I get along with everyone. The company is family owned and has 120+ employees, so it is not like a major business that is trying to screw me over. Maybe that's me being blind though.

Does the other guy have a degree? That might explain why his employers value him more.

[Deleted User]

You're working on SAP? Learn as much as you possibly can about it, then jump ship and get a job at a consultancy

The only way to get 'market rate' in IT is to move firms. If you can show skills in specific areas (e.g. SAP, SQL) then you can get higher salaries without qualifications (my old boss didn't have a degree, yet earned > £60k)

Frankly, i've found the number of 'IT savy' people in IT to be scarily low. I know people earning £30-40k who can barely put an IF statement together. If you can show you can learn fast then you'll go far

Oh, and get out of IT support if you can. It's the dogsbody of IT and rarely pays well

InsideInsurance

ringo_24601 wrote: »

Frankly, i've found the number of 'IT savy' people in IT to be scarily low. I know people earning £30-40k who can barely put an IF statement together

It is not unique to IT.

You get promotions by staying within a company. You get pay rises by switching companies.

What I did, was stay with the same company for a circa 4 years knowing I was getting a terrible salary but a hell of a lot of experience, exposure and formal courses.

I jumped ship after that and took a few short roles and heavily drove up my income.

Ultimately it depends on your priorities and the urgency over money.

jm2926

ringo_24601 wrote: »

You're working on SAP? Learn as much as you possibly can about it, then jump ship and get a job at a consultancy

The only way to get 'market rate' in IT is to move firms. If you can show skills in specific areas (e.g. SAP, SQL) then you can get higher salaries without qualifications (my old boss didn't have a degree, yet earned > £60k)

Frankly, i've found the number of 'IT savy' people in IT to be scarily low. I know people earning £30-40k who can barely put an IF statement together. If you can show you can learn fast then you'll go far

Oh, and get out of IT support if you can. It's the dogsbody of IT and rarely pays well

Totally agree. You have to change companies to increase salary in IT.

somethingcorporate

jm2926 wrote: »

Totally agree. You have to change companies to increase salary in IT.

Or be a contractor (very high risk) but the rewards can be staggering.

A number of IT contractors in my old workplace were on £1,500 a day

jenniemiller177

I would stuck with them for another year and gain as much experience as possible. It will look good for future companies that you have completed your apprenticeship, the company has taken you on and you have gained a good level of experience.

Linton

A company may well not raise young people to their standard full staff rates in one go. You may well find that you get more than the standard rise every year for the next few years.

Also, a company would have a budget for pay rises. Your manager has to balance your no doubt highly justifiable case for a rise against everybody elses.

So my advice would be to stay where you are at the moment because the experience you are gaining, especially SAP, is very valuable. Your company is paying for your training, you should take every advantage of this - what about getting proper SAP training.

Once you have a year or two's more experience then you will be in a much better position to judge whether you can get a better paying job elsewhere.

getmore4less

How many of you are there in your department ?

Any other IT related roles/departments, development, QA, etc.

Who does the infrastructure/stratagy.

IS this more than "support"

Looks like there is plenty to learn so worth a bit longer while investigating what is worth learning.

when on courses NETWORK.
get on linkedin

Seems like you are both underpaid.

[Deleted User]

somethingcorporate wrote: »

Or be a contractor (very high risk) but the rewards can be staggering.

A number of IT contractors in my old workplace were on £1,500 a day

Don't get me started on contractors. I spent most of my weekend working unpaid because some useless !!!!!!! contractor can't follow instructions on £500 a day