Installing outdoor electric point- help

pinkcandyflossprincess

Hi
My daughter is building an aviary however it will need some kind of heating in winter. As i dont have an outdoor electric point i was wondering how much this would cost to get one fitted?
Ideally i know the aviary should be heated with some kind of tublar heating and power cables buried deep beneath the ground but i was talking to a workman today who had come to fix a light and he said that the cable way would be very expensive so it would be best just to install an electric point outside and run an extension cable into aviary when needed.
I have no clue on electrics so wanted advice really and what costs are going to be involved.
(all birds are currently inside but ideally we would like them to have a decent flight room outside in summer)
jo x:o

muckybutt

pinkcandyflossprincess wrote: »

but i was talking to a workman today who had come to fix a light and he said that the cable way would be very expensive so it would be best just to install an electric point outside and run an extension cable into aviary when needed.

:eek::eek: hmmm yes well errm dont take his advice !

For an outdoor socket you will need an approved part p registered electrician, as outdoor sockets fall under part p regulations not every tom !!!!!! or harry can install them.

Ideally yes you need a cable digging into the ground from your fuse box to the aviary and either a outdoor socket put in there or a small consumer unit so you can have heating lighting and a powerpoint in there.

Price will vary depending upon what you want and how long the cable will have to be run in.

spadoosh

muckybutt wrote: »

:eek::eek: hmmm yes well errm dont take his advice !

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Why not???

pinkcandyflossprincess

I think my garden is about 18/20 foot long so its only a small garden. I was told cable needs to be installed about 6 foot down? that seems to be a bit of a job tbh
yes obviously its not something i intend to do myself or get some local oddjob man to do as need it all safe and above board. i dont want to end up with my home and the aviary on fire:o

System

The other option is to have high level cable via a catenary.

SailorSam

!!!!!! wrote: »

The other option is to have high level cable via a catenary.

The electrics in my garage go via a wire coming from the loft then running to the garage and held by loops. When the house was rewired the electricians told ud this was no longer legal and wouldn't touch it. They just disconnected it in the loft.

muckybutt

spadoosh wrote: »

Why not???

Because an extension lead is NOT the way to do it and he probably isnt qualified to touch electrics if that was his way of doing it.

pinkcandyflossprincess wrote: »

I think my garden is about 18/20 foot long so its only a small garden. I was told cable needs to be installed about 6 foot down? that seems to be a bit of a job tbh
yes obviously its not something i intend to do myself or get some local oddjob man to do as need it all safe and above board. i dont want to end up with my home and the aviary on fire:o

6ft down ? 18 - 24 inches at the most is perfectly acceptable for burying armoured cable. Being as its only 20 odd foot long then not a huge run of cable needed. Price wise i'd guesstimate it at around the £350 - £400 mark.

!!!!!! wrote: »

The other option is to have high level cable via a catenary.

Catenary wire went out with the arc ! there is no protection from uv doing it that way which will and does lead to premature aging of the cable....not the way to do it now i'm afraid.

System

muckybutt wrote: »

Catenary wire went out with the arc ! there is no protection from uv doing it that way which will and does lead to premature aging of the cable....not the way to do it now i'm afraid.

It's still used, especially in places where a ground dig is not possible or practical. There are now specialist cables with integral catenary. Another method is using conduit supported by the catenary wire.

muckybutt

!!!!!! wrote: »

It's still used, especially in places where a ground dig is not possible or practical. There are now specialist cables with integral catenary. Another method is using conduit supported by the catenary wire.

Last time I used catenary wire was when I was an apprentice ! as for using conduit on a catenary .... thats a new one on me and ive been a sparks for over 20 years, I have never seen that done ! but hey ho if you say so.

pinkcandyflossprincess

thank-you for all the replies. Looking at the options its probably best to go for the buried cable, hopefully 6 foot insnt needed then..phew!
It will be the last job on the list as aviary is still getting built and currently insulating the indoor part , think the birds are going to have to spend another winter inside as its getting into colder weather now so not the time to think about moving them anyway.
I did get some birds from a lovebird man and he has the most amazing setup ever that he has done himself, all heated etc so im hoping for a scaled down version of that in the end.
electric is one of the major jobs though that i cant cut corners on if its going to work.
I think the buried cable will look better also as nothing dodgy looking running over or above garden.:o

new_owner

Part P – is very strangely worded

http://www.electrical-health.co.uk/?page_id=445

http://www.electrical-health.co.uk/?page_id=450