Painting gloss on top of matt

Wig

Small toilet room has had two coats of white matt paint, painted on top of previous dark plum gloss (previous gloss was apparently sanded down first). I think it is is matt, it is a white chalky/powdery feel to it, is that matt? It could even be a primer coat for all I know!

Anyway we want to put a new gloss finish on..... We just purchased Dulux Bathroom+ Soft Sheen

Will this be a gloss finish? As it doesn't actually say on the tin.

Is this ok to paint on top of the newly painted white matt?

Would you use a brush, roller or one of these sponge pads?
If you would use a roller..... would it be a big 10 inch fluffy one or a small 4 inch less fluffy one?

Thanks

phill99

'Gloss' is a trem that refers to an oild based product that is used on wood and metal.

The 'Soft Sheen' you have purchased is an enulsion and is used for walls and ceilings. the 'Soft Sheen' refers to teh finish. It's not as flat as a Matt (the chalky looking one) and not as shiny as 'silk' which is a glossy finish.

You can paint the mid sheen onto the matt white no problem. Do the edges with a brush and teh bulk with a short pile roller.

Wig

Should we change it for a Dulux walls and ceilings silk then?
http://www.dulux.co.uk/products/info/silk.jsp

I want a paint that will be easily cleaned when necessary, and my thinking is that a glossy paint is easier to clean....
Surprised really that the bathroom+ range does not come in a silk version as that is what I would expect in a bathroom....

*We are going to paint the bathroom in the same paint/colour.

McKneff

The soft sheen you have got should clean just fine.

To be honest, there isnt much difference timewise between washing 4 walls down than painting the same four walls.

Wig

McKneff wrote: »

To be honest, there isnt much difference timewise between washing 4 walls down than painting the same four walls.

Sorry, don't understand this bit?

McKneff

Wig wrote: »

Sorry, don't understand this bit?

Wash 4 walls = half an hour. (wash and rinse)

Paint 4 walls = half an hour, probably less. And it would look a lot better.

jellie

Wig wrote: »

Would you use a brush, roller or one of these sponge pads?
If you would use a roller..... would it be a big 10 inch fluffy one or a small 4 inch less fluffy one?

Thanks

I prefer using paint pads (dead easy to use, really quick, no splashing at all), but I expect I'll be on my own on this.

Wig

Ahh, but you may only be washing a certain area, and painting costs a lot more.
And It would take me only minutes to wash a small toilet glossed wall, but would take me a whole day to find and put down painting sheets, find brushes/rollers, paint walls & clean brushes rollers.

And this is the point I was thinking, that washing a gloss wall in an area where it was dirty would not make that area look different from the rest of the unwashed wall, but if this paint is not glossy finish, then washing in one area may make that area look different to the unwashed area.

keystone

Don't get sucked in by the marketing hype of kitchen and bathroom paint. If you want a paint that you can easily clean / wipe down / scrub use the Endurance range from Dulux.

Cheers

Leif

keystone wrote: »

Don't get sucked in by the marketing hype of kitchen and bathroom paint. If you want a paint that you can easily clean / wipe down / scrub use the Endurance range from Dulux.

Cheers

You beat me to it. The matt Endurance paint is not quite as matt as matt emulsion, but it wipes clean without coming off unlike standard emulsion. It is an acrylic paint. I don't know any cheaper equivalents, then again, you don't use much in a bathroom.

Wig

Thanks, for the advice,
So a matt paint can be washed....hmmm (Endurance range is all matt)

I don't know what this painter has put on the walls but it looks cheap and nasty to me, and if I took a sponge to it, it would all wash off...I'm sure.

So I'll go back and change it for Dulux Endurance. £26 for 2.5l (only £2 more than the bathroom+)