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KevInChester

Apprentice Sandwich Assistant is on Direct.gov.uk at the moment....

denla

KevInChester wrote: »

Apprentice Sandwich Assistant is on Direct.gov.uk at the moment....

At least it's better than Apprentice Hygiene Officer... a 'skilled' trade learning to sweep the pavement and clean out the bin using specialist techniques to ensure low time consumption and effective cleaning of our local community.

asher_2

My 16 year old wants an apprenticeship, she will earn £100 for a 40 hr week in addition to studying an nvq. This will mean she is no longer in full time study, so I will loose child benefit (fair enough) but therefore loose child tax credits and maintainance payments from her father, and council tax reductions. This situation has left me unable to eat or sleep, struggling to work effectively in my job as a teaching assistant. My husband is now under the care of a mental health team as the financial situation has triggered his bi-polar.
I have been studying to increase my earning capacity, and encouraged my daughter to study and earn, I dont like claiming any benefits, but without them I will not be able to keep us housed.
It is wrong that companies are paid £1,500 to employ the youth at minimum wage, so unemployment figures improve.
16 year olds cannot claim jsa or any other financial support, nor can the parents. The government has put finances into place for the raised school leaving age already, leaving this years leavers betwen a rock and a hard place.

BigAunty

asher wrote: »

My 16 year old wants an apprenticeship, she will earn £100 for a 40 hr week in addition to studying an nvq. This will mean she is no longer in full time study, so I will loose child benefit (fair enough) but therefore loose child tax credits and maintainance payments from her father, and council tax reductions. ...
16 year olds cannot claim jsa or any other financial support, nor can the parents. The government has put finances into place for the raised school leaving age already, leaving this years leavers betwen a rock and a hard place.

The reason why the govt probably discourage JSA for secondary school leavers is to discourage them from leaving the classroom and becoming immediately dependent on benefits - what a dreadful life lesson to give - if you quit education, don't fancy an apprenticeship and can't find a job, you'll be given cash for an indefinate period.

Around this time of year, the benefits forum is flooded with panicking posts from parents who seemingly don't understand why when their child is no longer a dependent, they are supposed to pay their way in the house.

The parents have had 16-18 years knowing that child benefit, child tax credits and child maintenance will end but it's often seemingly quite a shock.

The parents focus on the loss of income but not the reduction in expenses - no school trips, equipment, school travel fares, no need to give them pocket money, no need to buy their clothes and shoes - their expenditure on the kid decreases. The adult child then starts to pay towards things like household bills and food rather than the taxpayer.

Some parents on the benefit board actually seem appalled that they should ask their adult employed child to pay keep. And some others post that their kid refuses to pay anything from their benefits, employment income or college/Uni grants..

gibson123

BigAunty wrote: »

The reason why the govt probably discourage JSA for secondary school leavers is to discourage them from leaving the classroom and becoming immediately dependent on benefits - what a dreadful life lesson to give - if you quit education, don't fancy an apprenticeship and can't find a job, you'll be given cash for an indefinate period.

Around this time of year, the benefits forum is flooded with panicking posts from parents who seemingly don't understand why when their child is no longer a dependent, they are supposed to pay their way in the house.

The parents have had 16-18 years knowing that child benefit, child tax credits and child maintenance will end but it's often seemingly quite a shock.

The parents focus on the loss of income but not the reduction in expenses - no school trips, equipment, school travel fares, no need to give them pocket money, no need to buy their clothes and shoes - their expenditure on the kid decreases. The adult child then starts to pay towards things like household bills and food rather than the taxpayer.

Some parents on the benefit board actually seem appalled that they should ask their adult employed child to pay keep. And some others post that their kid refuses to pay anything from their benefits, employment income or college/Uni grants..

I dealt with a call from a parent today, her 16 YO son is on an apprenticeship and earning £130 per week. She was moaning that her child benefit and tax credits were being stopped and she would lose £40 a week, she then asked me what was I going to do about it as she could no longer afford to feed her younger children . I suggested she should ask her son to contribute to the household, you would have thought I had suggested that she sells one of his kidneys the reaction I got. :eek::eek:

elektra

BigAunty wrote: »

The reason why the govt probably discourage JSA for secondary school leavers is to discourage them from leaving the classroom and becoming immediately dependent on benefits - what a dreadful life lesson to give - if you quit education, don't fancy an apprenticeship and can't find a job, you'll be given cash for an indefinate period.

Around this time of year, the benefits forum is flooded with panicking posts from parents who seemingly don't understand why when their child is no longer a dependent, they are supposed to pay their way in the house.

The parents have had 16-18 years knowing that child benefit, child tax credits and child maintenance will end but it's often seemingly quite a shock.

The parents focus on the loss of income but not the reduction in expenses - no school trips, equipment, school travel fares, no need to give them pocket money, no need to buy their clothes and shoes - their expenditure on the kid decreases. The adult child then starts to pay towards things like household bills and food rather than the taxpayer.

Some parents on the benefit board actually seem appalled that they should ask their adult employed child to pay keep. And some others post that their kid refuses to pay anything from their benefits, employment income or college/Uni grants..

I think you are misunderstanding some of Asher's post - the child on an apprenticeship will not be getting a full time wage and is still training.

With reference to reduction in costs - not true, I have already forked out over £100 for equipment for college ( ok still getting CB at this time), but once apprenticeship starts my income will go down and expenses increase as travel costs are going to be large as it is not local(local not possible before you ask). I will be encouraging my child to put his apprenticeship earnings towards travel/lunch.

I think a fairer way would be whilst child 16-19 on an apprenticeship should keep CB and CTC but reduce by amount earned on apprenticeship.

Hopefully it will work out well and apprenticeship will lead to a job.

t0rt0ise

I've seen a hospital advertising for apprentice Health Care Assistants. This means that while most hospitals pay a proper wage and also fund the NVQ study, that particular hospital pays a pittance for exactly the same job. The only difference is that at the end of the year, the apprentice is out of work.

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I saw a tile warehouse advertising for a apprentice delivery driver £100 a week for 40 hours once. I just saw it as cheap labour instead of paying someone atleast NMW to be a delivery driver.