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Tax evasion?

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  • Heycock
    Heycock Posts: 1,359 Forumite
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    Dseventy...no bleeding hearts or violins from me mate....you misread my tone....I was pointing out it's his own stupid fault if he gets reported and consequently investigated. But I stand by what I said about the nightmare of investigation. In 25 years of S/E I've Known literally dozens of colleagues who have been investigated. I'd say the ones who had the easiest time were the ones on the fiddle because they'd prepared for the possibility. One guy who i knew was on the level ended up on a psychiatric ward as a result of his experience.
    When you work in cash and the tax man says "We believe you have understated your income by £xxxx over x years and we assess your underpayment of tax as £xxxx, due now" then you've got a real problem even if you've done nothing wrong. Yes, individual taxmen like yours can be helpful but since the merger with Customs and Excise ,it's a totally different ball game.
    For the record I too was investigated early on in S/E as a result of a block check on my trade locally. i didn't have a problem because my records were immaculate and I can argue the hind legs off a donkey but not everyone keeps good records or relishes a fight. Does n't make them guilty though.
  • 1940sGal
    1940sGal Posts: 2,393 Forumite
    chris1973 wrote: »
    Ask yourself why the people telling you these things haven't reported him themselves?.

    Because the relative in question couldn't care less either way. I can say though I know the possible tax evader in question and if it were true, i wouldn't be remotely surprised.
  • 1940sGal
    1940sGal Posts: 2,393 Forumite
    McKneff wrote: »
    He said, she said. Forget it.

    Why are you so bothered about it.

    If he's fiddling he will eventually be caught one way or another.

    Will he? What if i did have evidence, would i be told to forget it then? Are you a tax payer? Does it not bother you having to pay because some people think paying tax is not for them?
  • 24skins
    24skins Posts: 1,773 Forumite
    dacouch wrote: »
    A friend who is a carpet fitter had never paid tax and was "not on the system", they caught up with him aged 40 and hit him for a six figure sum. He was to pay this back over a certain amount of years but went back to cash work and did not pay them. Last I heard he was looking at a spell at HMP

    Similar happened to my ex-husband's brother & his business partner, they ran a wood recycling business for years mostly off book; they landed in hot water with both the DWP (for paying employees cash in hand) and HMRC. Both had to pay back a fortune & one lost his house, but astoundingly neither was jailed...
    Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    1940sGal wrote: »
    Will he? What if i did have evidence, would i be told to forget it then? Are you a tax payer? Does it not bother you having to pay because some people think paying tax is not for them?

    If you did have proof, then do something about it, I would do so in a hearbeat.

    But the point is you havent, you are listening to someone who told someone, who heard it from............

    I'm not a tax payer now, but I was for 47 years up to last year.

    Like I say, if you have proof, do it. If you havent then butt out.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • 1940sGal wrote: »
    I was told today by a member of my family that someone we know has never paid tax in his life. He is a plasterer/builder by trade and takes cash in hand for the jobs he does (at an extortionate amount from what relatives have said). Anyway yeah, cash in hand and never pays tax and apparently has never had a bank account, either.

    How can this work? I mean, if it's true, how can he have gone so long without paying tax? He's late 40s, so he's not a young lad and has been doing the same job all his life.

    I don't have any hard proof, of course. The relative in question mentioned something about him 'not appearing on the system', whatever that means. My relative knows because the person in question is his brother in laws brother, if that makes sense, and they spend a lot of time in each others company.

    But would it be worth giving the tax evasion line a call? I know his name and where he lives but like i said, no hard evidence. If it is true it's a bit of p**s take!

    What do you think?

    I think the following

    is this about benefits?.....no

    do you know all the facts?...no

    do you need us to decide what you should do?....no

    should you report the real tax evaders/avoiders like e.g vodaphone,phil green,tesco et al....probably
  • 1940sGal wrote: »
    Will he? What if i did have evidence, would i be told to forget it then? Are you a tax payer? Does it not bother you having to pay because some people think paying tax is not for them?

    tax theft cost the country £10 billion every year,benefit fraud a fraction of this,do you see tv ads suggesting you inform on tax theives?NO,do they spend millions every year on ads for benefit fraud?YES
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    1940sGal wrote: »
    I was told today by a member of my family that someone we know has never paid tax in his life. He is a plasterer/builder by trade and takes cash in hand for the jobs he does (at an extortionate amount from what relatives have said). Anyway yeah, cash in hand and never pays tax and apparently has never had a bank account, either.

    How can this work? I mean, if it's true, how can he have gone so long without paying tax? He's late 40s, so he's not a young lad and has been doing the same job all his life.

    I don't have any hard proof, of course. The relative in question mentioned something about him 'not appearing on the system', whatever that means. My relative knows because the person in question is his brother in laws brother, if that makes sense, and they spend a lot of time in each others company.

    But would it be worth giving the tax evasion line a call? I know his name and where he lives but like i said, no hard evidence. If it is true it's a bit of p**s take!

    What do you think?

    I think that the average person who pays tax on all his income is fed up with people who do not whether they are cash in hand jobbing plasterers, bona fide self employed peoplem with a creative accountant, MPs or international telecommunications companies.

    Shop him, HMRC will know if the information is or is not true and deal with it accordingly. Some of those posting that its none of your business could easily be engaged in black art themselves.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • 1940sGal
    1940sGal Posts: 2,393 Forumite
    woodbine wrote: »
    I think the following

    is this about benefits?.....no

    do you know all the facts?...no

    do you need us to decide what you should do?....no

    should you report the real tax evaders/avoiders like e.g vodaphone,phil green,tesco et al....probably

    Well god forbid i should ask advice, eh! Funny, i thought this forum was for exactly that? Oh but i committed a cardinal sin and posted it on the wrong board so of course you can come in say something sarcastic without actually offering constructive feedback. I know i don't have all the facts, i don't need a smart !!!! to tell me, i've admitted that bit.
  • 1940sGal
    1940sGal Posts: 2,393 Forumite
    woodbine wrote: »
    tax theft cost the country £10 billion every year,benefit fraud a fraction of this,do you see tv ads suggesting you inform on tax theives?NO,do they spend millions every year on ads for benefit fraud?YES

    I won't bother then because there isn't a tv ad telling me to.
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