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Gracchus_Babeuf wrote: »Reduced their benefits and imposed silly assessment schemes that are designed to reduce the number of claimants, that's what.
Obviously you believe that 7% of all the working age UK population are "disabled"?0 -
Incorrect as this showsangrypirate wrote: »Isnt necessary? The tories got a higher % of votes than labour did in 2005 and labour got a big majority and you brush it off saying a change is unnecessary? You are Red Ed and i claim my £5
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8609989.stm
Click on the election 2005 labour victory link on this site.0 -
In my lifetime there has never been a more vile government than this condem.
nothing has ever come close to this governments treatment of its disabled citizens apart from the 3rd reich.
Rather depends how long your life has been! I think Thatcher's Government did a lot of the same stuff although I do not think she had a genocide agenda so comparisons to the 3rd Reich are a tad overstated!
Thatcher did do much the same to the disabled. A friend of mine who had one leg described how in her era the "doctor" assessing the need for him to remain on invalidity benefits tried to make him hop across a room to demonstrate his difficulties. Her policy to get people off disability benefits was much the same as Cameron's. Stop the abuse and sod the genuinely disabled if they suffer too.
Maybe you are disabled or know someone who is and are now more aware of what they are doing, maybe in the 1980s you were less interested in the treatment of disability and were not aware of the way Thatcher and Joseph were acting?
Cameron has clearly been inspired by Thatcher to yet again strangle the economy, create poverty, covertly undermine the NHS and make those with jobs more fearful of losing them.You Tories enjoy it while you can, but beleive me your time is coming.
Its sort of what the people wanted so you have to just take the nasty medicine and see what happens after the next roll of the dice. The right and the left get elected by convincing the average person to vote for them so they can govern for the sectional interests they represent. As Thatcher/Blair demonstrated the masses will do so more than once if the message is effective.
The interesting thing next time will be how people react to the Lib Dems. Personally I think they will be decimated but the Tories and their wealthy backers may still win.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
angrypirate wrote: »Having constituencies with similar population has been the idea for a long time.
This isnt a radical ideal to get more seats for the tories. The concept of equally populated constituencies was introduced in 1885.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redistribution_of_Seats_Act_1885
Some of these proposed changes really are ridiculous like moving a part of Chester (where I live) into a rural Winsford constituency that has little commonality. BTW the actual town of Winsford is 18 miles away from Chester. It is all right though because Chester will be gaining part of Ellesmere Port in compensation
'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
Some of these proposed changes really are ridiculous like moving a part of Chester (where I live) into a rural Winsford constituency that has little commonality. BTW the actual town of Winsford is 18 miles away from Chester. It is all right though because Chester will be gaining part of Ellesmere Port in compensation
Why does it matter who else is in your constituency, and if it is part rural part urban? It's not like it's going to make any difference to anything, as your MP will just vote in accordance with the whip, rather than what they believe is in the best interests of their constituents.0 -
chewmylegoff wrote: »Why does it matter who else is in your constituency, and if it is part rural part urban? It's not like it's going to make any difference to anything, as your MP will just vote in accordance with the whip, rather than what they believe is in the best interests of their constituents.
I cannot believe that you are suggesting that MP's do not fully and honestly represent the true feeling of their constituents!
... er...
Sorry. Just read your post more thoroughly and you're not merely "suggesting" it. You're actually saying it.
That's OK then. Fully agreed.0 -
Cameron has clearly been inspired by Thatcher to yet again strangle the economy, create poverty, covertly undermine the NHS and make those with jobs more fearful of losing them.
Yes, of course the government's strategy is to 'strangle the economy' and 'create poverty'
Their alien masters from the planet Tralfamadore have given them this instruction so as to make sure earth is properly subdued for when their fleets of saucers land.
A crazy theory?
Try re-reading what you wrote.0 -
what have the current government done that is so unfair to the disabled?
They decided to continue with the roll out of ESA as invented by the Labour government?...Thatcher did do much the same to the disabled. ...
And yet it was a Conservative government that introduced the DLA in 1992....Cameron has clearly been inspired by Thatcher to yet again strangle the economy, create poverty, covertly undermine the NHS and make those with jobs more fearful of losing them. ...
But every Labour government in history has always left power leaving unemployment higher than when they started. It's just as well that we have had periods in history without Labour in office, otherwise our economy would be well and truly strangled, and we'd all know the true meaning of poverty.0 -
Well - obviously. Do you think the tories want the libdems with them, poleaxing every attempt to reduce the client state?
They still got more seats (and many more votes) than labour.
But not enough to win. I think it is also true to say that many people would not have voted LibDem if they'd known they would get into bed with the Tories.Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.0 -
angrypirate wrote: »Having constituencies with similar population has been the idea for a long time. ...
It was one of the six basic demands of the People's Charter back in 1838. Back then the Chartists were regarded as being pretty radical and left wing. Funny how today's left wingers seem to be arguing the exact opposite.0
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