Is there any way out of an overtime clause?

falko89

K_P83 wrote: »

Is your HR "on site HR"?

Our HR person also does other roles within the company & is very pally-pally with the bosses.

Rumour has it that when this person was given a promotion, she booked a table for a meal at a restaraunt for the bosses & went to town on the restaurant - ordering them what to do, what not to do & telling them they must NOT balls any of it up, yada yada.

Decisions are biased. Not all of them, but they have been. I've been incorrectly paid & when i question it, i got told no i'm not getting paid any "extra". I don't want extra, i just want the hours i've worked for to be paid to me.
It's not as bad as it was (regarding that example), but it's happened numerous times.


I believe "off site" HR apparently act differently? I wouldn't know as we've only ever had "on site".

Yes he is on site and also has other roles such as being the wage clerk, When I told him of my problems initially he was very sympathetic, took the details and said he would run it past the boss to find the best outcome, the follow up meeting I was basically told to get over myself, his stance had changed after the meeting with the boss so yes he is very much pally pally with the boss and pointless even going to in the future.

LittleVoice

sniggings wrote: »

and others...but this case, it was true in the sense that a cat helps to show a family life, Miss May was trying to say the cat was the reason alone, instead of it only being part of the evidence that was used.

Presented as evidence maybe but not necessarily taken into consideration.

DCFC79

Could you cope with the loss in income ?

Sambucus_Nigra

K_P83 wrote: »

Our HR person also does other roles within the company & is very pally-pally with the bosses...

Decisions are biased.

Of course HR are pally pally - and of course decisions are biased. HR are there to keep the company out of court and that is the basis of them existing. Why would they find in favour of an employee when the company is the one paying their wages? Do not think for one second that they are going to be there for you.

Unless they are breaking the law, there is nothing you can do. Everything is in favour of the employer. The only way you can win is if they balls the process up or have cast iron proof that they are breaking employment law.

Sambucus_Nigra

K_P83 wrote: »

They haven't landed the company in court

They don't land the company in court - they keep the company out of court. If the company have a bad HR then more fool them - but as yet, they have not been in court. That makes them in the company's eyes - a good HR dept.

Rosemary7391

Could you maybe say something like 'I'm sorry, I've already made commitments this evening that I can't cancel with ten minutes notice but I can come in early tomorrow instead' - that way it is at least slightly more on your terms, and you're not refusing to do overtime. I don't think ten minutes is really notice, not even short notice! Out of interest, how far in advance would you have to call in if you were sick? That might be a more reasonable starting point for a notice time...

MissSarah1972

Rosemary7391 wrote: »

Could you maybe say something like 'I'm sorry, I've already made commitments this evening that I can't cancel with ten minutes notice but I can come in early tomorrow instead' - that way it is at least slightly more on your terms, and you're not refusing to do overtime. I don't think ten minutes is really notice, not even short notice! Out of interest, how far in advance would you have to call in if you were sick? That might be a more reasonable starting point for a notice time...

You can't ring in sick in advance?! Can you? You can call in by a certain time but not before you know you can't come in.

sniggings

Rosemary7391 wrote: »

Could you maybe say something like 'I'm sorry, I've already made commitments this evening that I can't cancel with ten minutes notice but I can come in early tomorrow instead' - that way it is at least slightly more on your terms, and you're not refusing to do overtime. I don't think ten minutes is really notice, not even short notice! Out of interest, how far in advance would you have to call in if you were sick? That might be a more reasonable starting point for a notice time...

good idea, if they say 24 hours notice is reasonable for sick, it would be hard (they will still do it) to argue that they can give you less.

MissSarah1972

sniggings wrote: »

good idea, if they say 24 hours notice is reasonable for sick, it would be hard (they will still do it) to argue that they can give you less.

Yeah ring in tomorrow morning before you go to work to tell them you are going to be ill on Tuesday! LOL