To work or not to work: That is my question!

LisaW123

Murphy_Gooner wrote: »

WOW listen too you. So what job is it that makes you feel your all high and mighty?
Get over yourself and show some respect. Atleast they have job. Dont matter if she is the first lady and he is Prime Minister or that they work in McDonalds, atleast they have a job.

My dad works in a factory so does that make him less of a human being then you?

No, my Dad worked in a factory too. He didn't receive or expect any financial help providing for me though.

LisaW123

Anny wrote: »

If everybody does bother to acquire skills...who is going to do the crap jobs?

Media studies "graduates", and the rest with mickey mouse qualifications.

Murphy_Gooner

LisaW123 wrote: »

No, my Dad worked in a factory too. He didn't receive or expect any financial help providing for me though.

So your parent/parents didnt receive any family allowance or had too pay less tax to provide for you?

My parents didnt get much in terms of financial support if anything.
But back then the price of fuel bills was alot less and council tax or poll tax as it was then wasnt at the levels as it is now and my parents were able too purchase their house for £20k and that was in the mid 90's
Cost of living is stupidly high and like it or not, people need help.
I would rather my money went too people who needed rather then the billions wasted on pointless wars and financial aid provided to countries who dont or shouldnt get it.

Just so you know around £35 billion is spent on the military and defence which is more then what is spent on family&children, the unemployed and housing all put together

LisaW123

The cost of living is certainly rising, and people need to take this into account before they bring children into the world.

Murphy_Gooner

If that mentality, then there would be a massive dip in population.
Like i mentioned in previous posts, its the children who will grow up too get jobs who will contribute too society too help pay for your pension or your healthcare you may well need.
Unless of course you would rather provide all of that for yourself without any assistance?

LisaW123

Murphy_Gooner wrote: »

If that mentality, then there would be a massive dip in population.
Like i mentioned in previous posts, its the children who will grow up too get jobs who will contribute too society too help pay for your pension or your healthcare you may well need.
Unless of course you would rather provide all of that for yourself without any assistance?

Actually, yes I would. I would rather all of my contributions were set aside in a personal account to be used for my benefit.

Murphy_Gooner

LisaW123 wrote: »

Actually, yes I would. I would rather all of my contributions were set aside in a personal account to be used for my benefit.

Well all i can say is i hope the day never comes if you were to ever need medication for an illness or a transplant operation or get too a point where you cant look after yourself and have to be put into a home.
Its not cheap i hear.

LisaW123

Murphy_Gooner wrote: »

Well all i can say is i hope the day never comes if you were to ever need medication for an illness or a transplant operation or get too a point where you cant look after yourself and have to be put into a home.
Its not cheap i hear.

No it's not cheap, but my husband and I are making provision for ourselves. We do not intend to have children so there will be our house, and our personal pensions.

I do not mind contributing to the pot for things like health care, and services that benefit all. I do, however, object to helping to support other people's children or those too indolent to do anything to improve their own lives. Come to think of it, I also object to supporting other people's elderly relatives who are dumped in homes because their families can't be bothered to look after them. That has never happened in my family and never will, before you make the assumption.

banner188

LisaW123 wrote: »

No it's not cheap, but my husband and I are making provision for ourselves. We do not intend to have children so there will be our house, and our personal pensions.

I do not mind contributing to the pot for things like health care, and services that benefit all. I do, however, object to helping to support other people's children or those too indolent to do anything to improve their own lives. Come to think of it, I also object to supporting other people's elderly relatives who are dumped in homes because their families can't be bothered to look after them. That has never happened in my family and never will, before you make the assumption.

You sound like you are pretty well off already if you are to provide for those things, so how are you being ripped off exactly?
God forbid, but what if you and your husband were in an accident tomorrow and needed constant care, specialist equipment, operations for the rest of your lives? Still got enough to cover it? Luckily wider society doesn't view the world in that way and would gladly look after you both.

You fail to recognize that children are a fundamental part of society and all our futures and if families need support, providing they are "playing ball" and not being lazy, they should get it.

annie1975_2

colleensims wrote: »

Yes......... but It wont be coming out of your wages if you dont work! It will be coming from the people that slog their guts out so you can watch daytime telly.

The taxes you pay in are not intended to be a 'safety net' for when you decide you dont want to work anymore, they are for other things like transport, health and education etc.

Yes we do get tax credits to help towards childcare. Thats all!!

Well that says it all. You say 'thats all' but you are the one who decided to have children, not the taxpayer, You.
So you are the one who has to provide for them. Why should my taxes pay the cost of looking after your children?:rotfl:

Sometimes peoples circumstances are different when they have children,then maybe they lose their job, and instead of sitting at home on their rear end,they go out and get another job thats not that well paid..The help needs to be there for them.