excel parking services limited

pogofish

pineapples wrote: »

hmmm. I think I'll go back to the car park and look at some signs etc to see if I've actually got a point. I did leave the area but unknowingly as did I know I could not leave the area.

I have 7 days anyway but £60 is a ridiculous fee.
thanks to both of you

Why are you exempt from the law that makes these tickets unenforcable for everyone else?

Civing any creedence to these guys after posting here is simply wasting your time and ours - Do you have MUG written all over you?

Ignore is the best course of action, as amply illustrated above!

And you don't have seven days as it is quite normal for these jokers to come back at you for more money, citing "late payment," no matter how promptly people respond.

Stephen_Leak

If you need to go back and read the signs, then they can't have been good enough to enable you to enter into a fair and reasonable deemed contract with Excel when you drove past them that day.

They should actually have enabled you to enter into a fair and reasonable deemed contract with the car park owner.

Excel do have a reputation for inadequate signage. Excel Parking Services vs. Cutts, Stockport, 2011, 1SE02759. The Peel Centre case. The judge visited the site and ruled that the signs at the entrance, with lettering only 13mm high, were inadequate to advise motorists of the terms and conditions of the contract they were entering into by driving into the car park, and found in favour of the driver.

The managing director of Excel, Simon Renshaw-Smith, was than quoted as saying that the judge was "not fit to serve in the civil courts". To the best of our knowledge, the signs haven’t been replaced.

trisontana

That's because the BPA say there is nothing wrong with the signs. This means that they think they are above the law.

Coupon-mad

pineapples wrote: »

hmmm. I think I'll go back to the car park and look at some signs etc to see if I've actually got a point. I did leave the area but unknowingly as did I know I could not leave the area.

I have 7 days anyway but £60 is a ridiculous fee.
thanks to both of you

I think pleeeeeease stop wasting your time. Ignore it and enjoy the rest of the sunny days. This is NOT your first parking ticket, you have still not had one because this is a generic, well-known scam, already outed on Watchdog 2 years ago!

You do NOT have a fine, you do not have to appeal or pay, nothing will happen, no Court, no CCJ, NOTHING except more letters. Forget the 7 days, for the love of God see this for what it is and forget the fake PCN. Would you take a phishing email as seriously as this, just because it looked official, looked as if it came from your Bank? NOPE, you'd laugh at the extortion attempt and delete it! Sooooo, don't take a piece of paper seriously that looks a bit official, looks as if it's a parking ticket but isn't.

The piece of paper on your windscreen has as much clout as a Burger King Flyer - would you quake in your boots if Burger King placed a player on your car saying 'eat with us for a fiver' then sent you letters to pretend to sue you if you didn't avail yourself of a burger?!

If you are scared because these companies get the registered keeper data from the DVLA then don't be - they simply buy it for £2.50 (Google it to read about the DVLA private parking companies scam, outed by the national press ages ago).

If you are scared of the idea of debt collector letters then you should see the ones I carry in my handbag from a fake PCN 4 years ago! I carry them around to show colleagues and friends so they know the score. I also got another fake PCN this Summer and ignored that too.

Just look at the third from top thread 'PPC letter chains'. It's there for newbies like you so you can just play snap with each letter. It also has a link to the most straightforward advice from a solicitor on Watchdog who knows what he is talking about.

JagDriver

I can confirm the God like signs at the Peel Centre are as they were and they are still issuing forth at the site. I wonder how many pay, being as it was local front page news regarding their loss in court?

HO87

@pineapples

Please understand that private parking companies dress up their signs, invoices and demanding letters to give the appearance that they have an authority they don't. They simply mimic it. The entire set up is intended to make you believe that you have, in some way, breached the law when all that has happened is that the parking company alleges that you have.

A total of 1.8 million private parking tickets were issued last year and every single one would have been supported by signs, tickets and letters that threatened, ultimately, to take you to court. So serious are these companies about upholding the law that just 49 cases out of that 1.8 million total actually ended up in front of a judge. That's 0.00272% - which pretty much equates to coming up with 5 numbers and the bonus ball in the National Lottery for £100,000.

Convinced that this is serious yet?

pineapples

okay okay! they can go to hell then I guess. I dont even have the money they want me to pay.

I'm only worried as it's my first ticket of any kind. So I guess I have to sit back and watch the letters roll in through the letter box then ey?

JagDriver

Indeed. If any court papers turn up (you should get so lucky) come back for information on how to stuff them wholesale.

fil_cad

Just ignore the scammers and don't even think about filling there grubby bank account up with your cash, if they do get to you just come back to this forum for support and laugh it all off as a joke ((-;

bondy_lad

oi,you have not recieved, I REPEAT NOT,recieved a ticket, merely a fake one,requesting money from you,so please ignore, read the stickies as more threat o grams to follow, roxburghe and graham white, all part of THE SAME SCAM,do not let this get to you, that is what these cretins hope for ,that you will thing the whole thing is real, when in truth its a SCAM,there you go, jobs a belter aint it.relax now.