My mates local

coastline

Some prices from the street.....probably priced at £90,000 to reflect the price of a terraced house..

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detail.html?country=england&locationIdentifier=STREET%5E596230&searchLocation=Benbow+Street&columnToSort=DEED_DATE&outcode=PL2&year=20&originalIncode=1

Thing is with people drinking at home they are drinking more... and more spirits which can't be a good thing...
The government just seem pleased that pubs are closing at a steady rate...the problem isn't going away especially when you hear of young women with kidney and liver problems...all highlighted by the NHS.

Wheezy_2

Eellogofusciouhipoppokunu wrote: »

....undisturbed sleep patterns and lack of empty glasses, bottles, chip papers and comatose drunks in their front gardens.

Ionkontrol wrote: »

LIve next to a pub do you?

Probably lives next to chewy's pub

Eellogofusciouhipoppokunu

Ionkontrol wrote: »

LIve next to a pub do you?
Pub culture is brilliant, but expensive.

Brilliant if it's in a City centre or a country pub. If the pub is in the middle of a residential area like the old backstreet pub such as the Rovers Return or on the high street of a town or village close to homes, then they're a pain. Especially those rough pubs like Wetherspoons with all the knuckle dragging throwbacks who congregate there.

Pobby

coastline wrote: »

Some prices from the street.....probably priced at £90,000 to reflect the price of a terraced house..

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detail.html?country=england&locationIdentifier=STREET%5E596230&searchLocation=Benbow+Street&columnToSort=DEED_DATE&outcode=PL2&year=20&originalIncode=1

Thing is with people drinking at home they are drinking more... and more spirits which can't be a good thing...
The government just seem pleased that pubs are closing at a steady rate...the problem isn't going away especially when you hear of young women with kidney and liver problems...all highlighted by the NHS.

Actually, it doesn`t reflect the price of similar properties. What you are looking at is indeed properties in the street but be aware they are usually converted into three or four flats. So the pub in question would convert pretty much the same way.

The bug bear is the planning permission. In Plymouth, and I guess elsewhere, the questioned asked is where is the parking for cars
going to be provided ?

In fact there is possible car parking at the rear of the building with a bit of digging up and laying out .

Looking at one bed flats, I guess you could charge £80,000 a go, maybe £75,000. So I am still thinking that £90,000 is a fair price.

Having said that, there is a huge amount of pubs in walking distance . Albeit that many are now closed .

Will be interested in the outcome .

shortchanged_2

StevieJ wrote: »

If you know what you are doing there is still plenty of cash to be made, here is a new pub being renovated from an old dilapidated building in Chester, not only will it be a real money spinner but it will return a fine building back into use.

http://www.brunningandprice.co.uk/architect/

Yes that's fair enough StevieJ but you'll probably find the emphasis and a great deal of the business in your example will be food sales.

Like I said earlier I think the days of the mainly wet local are long gone and pubs now are increasingly reliant on selling food to make themselves financially viable.

Loughton_Monkey

shortchanged wrote: »

.....Like I said earlier I think the days of the mainly wet local are long gone and pubs now are increasingly reliant on selling food to make themselves financially viable.

This is a double-edged sword.

Yes, there are loads of pubs these days with extensive menus and wine lists. Generally good value for money.

The downside, though, is that children are allowed in these establishments. I wish the law had never changed. No longer is it possible to have a quiet meal in a nice country pub, without listening to shrieking kids running about the place, playing hide-and-seek, banging your chairs as they run past, while the tattooed, earinged, over-weight parents ignore the little s0ds.

If they are younger, then you are forced to watch enormous quantites of beans, ice cream, custard etc. being rammed down their throats and being sicked up/regurgitated.

Make no mistake. Children belong in McDonalds and not in pubs.

Round this way, the teenagers and 20-somethings don't go into pubs. They follow the normal stereotypical behaviour of getting tanked up at home on supermarket lager. Then, nicely oiled, they set off to the clubs, where the bouncers are dutifully around to sell them all the drugs they want. They can then sit with an expensive drink all night, ogling the "wannaby wags", ruining their eardrums permanently, and then pour themselves out on the street at 3:00 a.m. and start a few fights, stab a few mouthy individuals, or simply vomit in the street and stagger home.

In my day, a good night out was a quiet pub, a pint of mild, and a game of dominoes. If I could afford it, a pork pie and pickled egg was also welcome.

noodle_doodle

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

The downside, though, is that children are allowed in these establishments. I wish the law had never changed. No longer is it possible to have a quiet meal in a nice country pub, without listening to shrieking kids running about the place, playing hide-and-seek, banging your chairs as they run past, while the tattooed, earinged, over-weight parents ignore the little s0ds.

If they are younger, then you are forced to watch enormous quantites of beans, ice cream, custard etc. being rammed down their throats and being sicked up/regurgitated.

Make no mistake. Children belong in McDonalds and not in pubs.

I was in a pub on sunday and some kid was having a tantrum, throwing food in the air and then ran up and screamed in my ear. Fair enough, it was my kid, but it put me right off my pint.

spadoosh

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

This is a double-edged sword.

Yes, there are loads of pubs these days with extensive menus and wine lists. Generally good value for money.

The downside, though, is that children are allowed in these establishments. I wish the law had never changed. No longer is it possible to have a quiet meal in a nice country pub, without listening to shrieking kids running about the place, playing hide-and-seek, banging your chairs as they run past, while the tattooed, earinged, over-weight parents ignore the little s0ds.

If they are younger, then you are forced to watch enormous quantites of beans, ice cream, custard etc. being rammed down their throats and being sicked up/regurgitated.

Make no mistake. Children belong in McDonalds and not in pubs.

Round this way, the teenagers and 20-somethings don't go into pubs. They follow the normal stereotypical behaviour of getting tanked up at home on supermarket lager. Then, nicely oiled, they set off to the clubs, where the bouncers are dutifully around to sell them all the drugs they want. They can then sit with an expensive drink all night, ogling the "wannaby wags", ruining their eardrums permanently, and then pour themselves out on the street at 3:00 a.m. and start a few fights, stab a few mouthy individuals, or simply vomit in the street and stagger home.

In my day, a good night out was a quiet pub, a pint of mild, and a game of dominoes. If I could afford it, a pork pie and pickled egg was also welcome.

Sounds awesome, would rather end up high as kite eating mcd's introducing myself to a new lady garden......... mmmm pickled eggs, yum!

Pobby

I find that the trouble in fairly busy pubs is that noise. Was out with Lady Pobby on Saturday. Pub was quite busy and the sound of raised voices in conversation was not comfortable. Then someone put some music on the juke box and asked for the volume to be increased .

We left early . At least it wasn`t Christmas and was having to put up with " Mistletoe and Wine ".

Another local pub, big Sky screen and a juke box . Hardly a place to have a nice drink and a chat .

Eellogofusciouhipoppokunu

Why not go to a coffee shop?