A cry of anguish

ruggedtoast

vl2588 wrote: »

I had two gap years as I was trying Plan A first (currently on Plan B in career terms!), so I do not have 7 years' relevant experience! I work in the environmental sector so money not as high as it could be in other sectors. Nevertheless I would still expect it to be reasonable that someone of my experience & age could afford a house.

I do not live in the London area btw. Also, I applied for a job in London once (as a grad) and was told there was no such thing as London weighting - not sure how they expected me to live in or near London on 18k!

I wouldnt bother trying to discuss it with them. As far as they are concerned anyone in their 30s on less than £80k a year who didnt buy a house when they were 19 years old is a complete failure who should creep in the shadows.

Despite the fact they never faced such a scenario themselves, and a lot of them actually live with their elderly mums and sign on every fortnight.

Its been done to death on here.

vl2588

Just thought I'd give my two pennies' worth

vivatifosi

ILW wrote: »

Are you saying that a professional (ie accountant, architect, lawyer etc) working in the London area can only earn £30k. Sounds very low to me.

Librarianship draws very low salaries. In the past it has required a first followed by a masters degree to go further within the profession (eg to chartership/management), but at least one library school has stopped its undergraduate programme. Cuts in libraries don't help and its not unusual to get people with a heck of a lot of experience having to accept very low salaries - or move into a different career such as teaching.

ILW

vivatifosi wrote: »

Librarianship draws very low salaries. In the past it has required a first followed by a masters degree to go further within the profession (eg to chartership/management), but at least one library school has stopped its undergraduate programme. Cuts in libraries don't help and its not unusual to get people with a heck of a lot of experience having to accept very low salaries - or move into a different career such as teaching.

I would not have thought of Librarian or Environmentalist as "professions".

Tend to think more along the lines of Architect, Accountant, Lawyer, Chartered Surveyor, Estate Agent etc.

ukcarper

ILW wrote: »

I would not have thought of Librarian or Environmentalist as "professions".

Tend to think more along the lines of Architect, Accountant, Lawyer, Chartered Surveyor, Estate Agent etc.

Estate Agent please tell me that's a joke

vivatifosi

ILW wrote: »

I would not have thought of Librarian or Environmentalist as "professions".

Tend to think more along the lines of Architect, Accountant, Lawyer, Chartered Surveyor, Estate Agent etc.

It was until recently a profession that required a named degree and for which you can belong to a professional body and go for chartership etc. The closest alternative profession is probably teaching.

You are I'm sure joking about estate agents though...

I'm not a librarian btw, so this isn't a plea on my part for more money.

ILW

ukcarper wrote: »

Estate Agent please tell me that's a joke

Might be....

ukcarper

ILW wrote: »

Might be....

Do they do a degree in bullpoo at oxford?

ILW

I think my understanding of the term professional tends to be the rather old fashioned idea where they were self employed or set up firms and partnerships, selling their services as required for fees.

Rather than just being employees within companies not directly related to their profession. (If that makes any sense)

chewmylegoff

ukcarper wrote: »

Do they do a degree in bullpoo at oxford?

yes, it's called PPE.