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Just had my electric bill. I feel sick.

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  • tripled
    tripled Posts: 2,883 Forumite
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    moonrakerz wrote: »
    If this a caravan site, the people who run the site can charge what they like for power. They have to to recoup the costs of cabling the site, supplying meters etc, so the unit price will be higher and is usually a flat rate.

    I had this in a marina for my boat !

    That's news to me, my understanding is unless you are a registered power supplier you can't resell it for more than you've paid for it. Any costs for cabling, etc should be part of the service charge or ground rental for your caravan.

    If I'm feeling motivated tomorrow I might have a quick rummage around the interweb for the regulations :)

    Edit: Found it already, just go to the energywatch website and search for "resale". Here are acouple of key quotes though:
    Question
    What is Maximum Resale Price?

    Answer
    The Maximum Resale Price is the most a landlord can charge you for mains gas or mains electricity.

    Your landlord cannot charge more for gas or electricity than the amount they have paid for it, plus VAT at the appropriate rate. Your landlord can also recover the supplier's standing charge, by dividing on a pro-rata basis amongst tenants according to their varying levels of consumption.

    and...
    Maximum Resale Price will apply to you if you:

    rent your home and pay your landlord for the gas or electricity you use
    are a leaseholder and you buy your gas or electricity from the lessor
    are a student and you buy your gas or electricity from your landlord
    own or rent a caravan and buy your gas or electricity from the caravan site or park owner
    rent a holiday home or chalet and buy your gas or electricity from the owner
    own a houseboat or marine craft and buy your gas or electricity from the moorings operator.

    and finally...
    Your landlord is entitled to recover charges for other costs such as the maintenance and upkeep of his own supply system, gas or electricity used in communal areas or administrative charges for reading individual sub-meters.

    However, these charges are not covered by the Maximum Resale Price regulations and should be billed separately, for example within the rent or as part of other service charges.
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,064 Forumite
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    tripled wrote: »
    That's news to me, my understanding is unless you are a registered power supplier you can't resell it for more than you've paid for it. Any costs for cabling, etc should be part of the service charge or ground rental for your caravan.

    Tripled,

    I remember now reading about the legislation on this issue.

    It was brought in because some landlords were 'ripping off' tenants by installing coin machines which they could set at their own rate.

    However in this case I would think 14p a unit is pretty fair, considering a high percentage would be at tier 1 rates.
  • espresso
    espresso Posts: 16,448 Forumite
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    Cardew wrote: »
    However in this case I would think 14p a unit is pretty fair, considering a high percentage would be at tier 1 rates.

    Just a thought, in this case the caravan park owner may be or probably should be on a business tariff? However prices do vary considerably from region to region,so it probably is a fair rate to charge.
    :doh: Blue text on this forum usually signifies hyperlinks, so click on them!..:wall:
  • Mizz_Pink
    Mizz_Pink Posts: 756 Forumite
    Cardew wrote: »
    More detailed reply on the thread you started:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=413789

    The 9p a unit is a Typo?


    Thank-you, yes we get charged 4.18p at night sorry ! :embarasse
    Just owe Dad £2500 for a new car
    :A

    Paid off car loan 22nd August 2009. :T
  • tripled
    tripled Posts: 2,883 Forumite
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    Even if the site owner is paying 13.8p, then whilst charging 14p might be considered fair, it would still be illegal.
  • dc
    dc Posts: 2,547 Forumite
    Tripled, thanks for that. I was ignorant of that fact.
    Landlords for as long as I can remeber used to get a living from re-selling. The worst rip-off was a coin meter.

    Glad to know that a stop has been put on this practice.
    ac's lovechild
  • Gal
    Gal Posts: 437 Forumite
    Do you have storage heaters?

    Or is a flow boiler? Alot of mobile homes now have electric flow boilers as there smaller but can be expensive to run.
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