Housing benefit and under occupancy

Dunroamin

nannytone wrote: »

you say that like its a choice,k

in the place that i libe there are 2 1 bedroomed properties. they are supported housing for young people.

i libe in a 2 bed .... not because i cjoose to, but because there is no alternative,

i am disabled and have no real prospects of working . not eben minimally, dont ebem consider that i could earn a living wage.

But most people who live in social housing should be prepared to move out of their small preferred area if they can't afford to live there.

princessdon

nannytone wrote: »

i am disabled and have no real prospects of working . not eben minimally, dont ebem consider that i could earn a living wage.

There are people on benefits who earn more than a "living" wage.

not many working people have over £100 pw disposable income after housing and council tax.

Not all obviously (exceptions to both sides) but after tax/NI - cost to work and paying housing I am not sure how many people have any form of income left to play with these days.:(

nannytone_2

Dunroamin wrote: »

But most people who live in social housing should be prepared to move out of their small preferred area if they can't afford to live there.

i totally acceot that. but my ha can only offer me a property 20 miles away. my suppert is where i libe now. i am registered vlind and cant just move to a new situation that doesnt have my circle of support. we arent neing considered at all. moving isnt an easy option when youre limitied because of disability

barnaby-bear

elliegirl wrote: »

The way some people jump to conclusions on here is a joke. Did I say what age my daughter was when she had a baby. She had moved out, then her flatmates left and she could not afford the rent on her own. We decided to have her move back in so we could help when the baby was born so she could continue with work. She could have given up work and gone the homeless route and live on benefits but she did not want to do that. She is only doing part time as she needs to finish the course she is doing so hopefully she can become a fully qualifed TA.

I kind of assumed if she and the dad planned a family, given she's doing the child care he'd be paying the bills... 14% isn't lot really given he's got no childcare.

nannytone_2

[/Bi feel reallu mlucky with the amount of support i trveive right now ..... ots more than mosy get ....
but then i also have more to lose. familiarity is everything to me because of the nature of my disability. ive sone nithing wrong except have a genetic condition. the new rules will take almost £30 a week from me.
not a great deal i suppose//// niy wjem upi jabe no prospect of bettwring yourself....its a big deal.

id the situation was of my own making then id accept it ..... butim at the mercy of others an so im an easy target]

Dunroamin

nannytone wrote: »

i totally acceot that. but my ha can only offer me a property 20 miles away. my suppert is where i libe now. i am registered vlind and cant just move to a new situation that doesnt have my circle of support. we arent neing considered at all. moving isnt an easy option when youre limitied because of disability

Twenty miles is still very local - it isn't the other side of the country.

prepareathome

Surely for someone blind 20 miles would be as bad as living in another country as she would not be able to 'see' the differences in pavements, roads, etc. I am not blind by any means but my condition can sometimes affect my site and I find it hard enough getting round my home never mind outside where I know without going somewhere strange. 20 miles is also quite a journey for support people to travel to help for maybe a few hours and then the extra petrol costswould have to be found. So if nannytone needed her support to come over a few times a day it could end up costing more than BT without the cost of moving and redecorating.

I am one of those disgusting under occupiers but as I pay full rent I don't see why I should have to move if willing to pay the price of staying. House is adapted for me after years of washing in the kitchen sink and sleeping in living room and my HA don't have anything less than 3 beds and we are not allowed to exchange outside our HA not even to others in area. They do have sheltered accommodation with high 3 figure waiting list. So we will continue to struggle and pay full rent and stay in our home.

Dunroamin

prepareathome wrote: »

Surely for someone blind 20 miles would be as bad as living in another country as she would not be able to 'see' the differences in pavements, roads, etc. I am not blind by any means but my condition can sometimes affect my site and I find it hard enough getting round my home never mind outside where I know without going somewhere strange. 20 miles is also quite a journey for support people to travel to help for maybe a few hours and then the extra petrol costswould have to be found. So if nannytone needed her support to come over a few times a day it could end up costing more than BT without the cost of moving and redecorating.
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But people with sight problems do move home and get used to new surroundings or how could so many blind people work? Also, there are carers in all areas and 20 miles would be nothing for family.

I just believe in looking at the possible and making the best of things if there is no alternative.

princessdon

nannytone wrote: »

[/Bi feel reallu mlucky with the amount of support i trveive right now ..... ots more than mosy get ....
but then i also have more to lose. familiarity is everything to me because of the nature of my disability. ive sone nithing wrong except have a genetic condition. the new rules will take almost £30 a week from me.
not a great deal i suppose//// niy wjem upi jabe no prospect of bettwring yourself....its a big deal.

id the situation was of my own making then id accept it ..... butim at the mercy of others an so im an easy target]

it is a lot and I do have sympathy. £30 is worst case surely. My LA are not taking anything from the disabled for CT and so it will only be the 1 bedroom so £14 pw.

It is the way it's going - everyone (bar the rich) is feeling the pinch right now. My sister lost her tax Credits in april and again she did nothing wrong - this has meant severe hardship for them, they have had to cancel everything like Sky etc and live hand to mouth. The changes are a big deal for all (if it involves you).

Popperwell

It will be tight but I probably could aford to stay put if I continue to get the same amount as I do now but I could lose £30+ per week but moving will mean the other side of town and as said if using buses(practically non existant) and taxis they'll cost so much I won't save anything unless I stop going out. But if the DLA/PIP is no longer payable to me I will be stuffed. Unless I come under perhaps the suported ESA.

It's all up in the air, not much information or lots of unknowns so I can understand what PAH and Nannytone say...