Sainsburys - Do I need to pay back holidays?

Mr_K

Every chance with a large employer that they don't notice or can't be bothered about it. Do and say nothing to alert them to it, but have money put aside in case they ask for it.

McKneff

Im actually surprised they have allowed you to take holidays that you haven't accrued.

go_cat

Mr_K wrote: »

Every chance with a large employer that they don't notice or can't be bothered about it. Do and say nothing to alert them to it, but have money put aside in case they ask for it.

This is incorrect. Most large companies payroll is automised nd this will be calculated by computer so will be deducted from your final pay

If you owe more than they can deduct then they may take steps to recover this from you - this is the debatable bit as it can get expensive for the company for a relatively small amount

denla

patman99 wrote: »

You have taken 20 paid days off. On a pro-rata basis, based on 21 holiday days (excl. B/H's) then you are entitled to 21/12=1.75 days/month. By October, you would have accrued 14 days so will have to pay back 6 days.
By Nov., you will have accrued 15.75 days, so will pay back 4.25 days.

I have always been told that Sainsburys require 1 months notice when you leave. Failure to give the required notice can give you just as much hassle.
If you are planning on leaving as you have another job lined-up, then you want to leave on good terms just in case you need a reference from them.

One of my colleagues says she'll be leaving the country, heading back to Ghana and plans to leave after pay day without giving notice. I'm quite sure Sainsburys doesn't do references so it doesn't matter whether you're a good employee or a bad one.

I'll set aside some money in case they ask for it. It's 4 weeks notice, not exactly a full calendar month by the way. Another colleague actually asked the store manager if it's ok to give 3 weeks notice only and the store manager said it's ok, but is it really 'ok'?

pickpocketlocket

go_cat wrote: »

This is incorrect. Most large companies payroll is automised nd this will be calculated by computer so will be deducted from your final pay

If you owe more than they can deduct then they may take steps to recover this from you - this is the debatable bit as it can get expensive for the company for a relatively small amount

Some large retailers use civil recovery schemes to recover overpayments, even for the smallest amounts.

denla wrote: »

One of my colleagues says she'll be leaving the country, heading back to Ghana and plans to leave after pay day without giving notice. I'm quite sure Sainsburys doesn't do references so it doesn't matter whether you're a good employee or a bad one.

I'll set aside some money in case they ask for it. It's 4 weeks notice, not exactly a full calendar month by the way.

Sainsburys do give references, albeit usually just a standard one stating dates of employment. However what they can do is refuse to give a reference, which a future employer may take as an implication of a negative reference.

DCFC79

denla wrote: »

One of my colleagues says she'll be leaving the country, heading back to Ghana and plans to leave after pay day without giving notice. I'm quite sure Sainsburys doesn't do references so it doesn't matter whether you're a good employee or a bad one.

I'll set aside some money in case they ask for it. It's 4 weeks notice, not exactly a full calendar month by the way. Another colleague actually asked the store manager if it's ok to give 3 weeks notice only and the store manager said it's ok, but is it really 'ok'?

They do give references but as the person you mentioned is going back to ghana then they wont have any comeback.

Have you asked HR if 3 weeks notice is actually ok ?

There is a number for staff to use so not sure if you could annymously ask the question about notice.

ohreally

denla wrote: »

One of my colleagues says she'll be leaving the country, heading back to Ghana and plans to leave after pay day without giving notice

Thats nice of her.

I hope she doesn't believe in karma.

DVardysShadow

denla wrote: »

It's 4 weeks and one day I'm entitled to. I used up 4 weeks before I'll be leaving in Oct or Nov. How many days will I need to pay back? I normally work 4 days a week for 21 hrs.

You should look at this another way. You will have taken too much holiday, so how many days will you need to work to cover that holiday.

MissSarah1972

Mr_K wrote: »

Every chance with a large employer that they don't notice or can't be bothered about it. Do and say nothing to alert them to it, but have money put aside in case they ask for it.

A large employer wont notice? LOL Of course they will - they do payroll acruals for holiday so they will notice for sure and take it all back.

Savvy_Sue

DCFC79 wrote: »

For 2012 it started 18/3/12

I note that you're not the OP, but that's a slightly odd date: the leave year can run from your actual start date, or some other date - 1st Jan and 1st March are both quite common. But 18th March? bizarre ...

Anyway: the OP can use Patman's calculation of 1.75 days per month worked and deduct days already taken.

McKneff wrote: »

Im actually surprised they have allowed you to take holidays that you haven't accrued.

But pretty much every employer has to let staff take leave they have not accrued, otherwise they'd have no staff working on the final day of the leave year, would they? OK, I know that's taking it to extremes, but given that they can claw back any leave taken which hasn't been 'earned', there is very little reason not to let staff take their full leave entitlement earlier than the last month of the year.