Parking Eye MADNESS!

rufuslives

Dear All,

Ive been joyously reading the tales of the idiots at Parking Eye and would appreciate a look over a reply I've written on behalf of my partners mum (who is the registered keeper of the vehicle in question).

Basically she was taken in by the official looking letters and the driver in question replied and was rejected and 'more evidence' was requested (long story short he returned within the alloted time to find he had a flat tyre and spent ten minutes changing it taking him over the allowed time). So rather than going down the argueing route I have decided to write the following (any hints or tips gladly welcomed!):


Dear Sir or Madam,

I am writing in reference to what you laughably have thenerve to label a ‘Parking Charge Notice’ ref. 250009/878520.

I am not the registered keeper of the vehicle but have beenengaged to put an end to this situation. The registered keeper of the vehiclewas not driving at the time of the alleged incident and therefore if youcontinue to address correspondence to her, further action will have to be takenregarding what can only be viewed as harassing behaviour! And before youattempt to quote the Road Traffic Act, I can assure you that it actually statesthat the keeper should not allow anyone to use a motor vehicle without thirdparty insurance. It doesn't say she needs to keep a record of who was driving.If you believe you DO have the right to be told who was driving, as this is nota statutory request covered by law. Any work to investigate will need to becarried out on a commercial basis. I estimate that to investigate for that dayin question, to confirm that the vehicle was where you claim it was will takeapproximately two hours. At my current rate I will require from your payment of£60 plus VAT. Once I receive payment and your payment clears my bank I willendeavour to furnish you with the required details.

In relation to previous correspondence I would site the caseof Eileen Blackman as featured nationally on BBC Watchdog. Where in similar circumstancesher car broke down and she was forced to overstay. Having ignored her appealand taken her money you were forced to refund and apologise to her. In thiscase I shall save you the unnecessary administration.

As you are all TOO aware, you have no legal enforcementpower here. Please take this as notice to cease and desist all further correspondenceon this legally unenforceable matter. You are also aware that you have lostcases of a similar nature before (2010 Riyez Patel having been overturned afterthe ‘charge’ was paid by a hire company) as ‘unlawful’.

In closing I will remind you that despite your attempts tomake you charge notices look official with the Police style border and use ofthe ‘PCN’ acronym, they are far from it. I wish to reiterate that this is NOTan appeal and that I shall expect no further correspondence in relation to itto be directed to the registered keeper.

Yours,





SM,

(on behalf of the registered keep as identified on the socalled ‘Parking Charge Notice’ ref. 250009/878520)

Spider_Soprano

Wouldn't even bother sending it tbh. They won't read it and you will get another "appeal rejected" letter. Just ignore everything from now on.

hal81

I have been caught by parking eye for over staying at Aldi car park for 5 min, I didnt shop at Aldi as I had an appointment at a job centre close by and was running really late due to traffic. I was going to come back to Aldi after leaving the job center, but I realised I had overstayed my parking limit for 1 hour 20 min and decided not to go Aldi. Parking eye have now sent me a fine for over staying, I replied to parking eye and lied that I was shopping at Aldi and that I was aware of the parking limit and got delayed due to long queues at the till. I also told them that I paid for my shopping by cash an I dont have a receipt. However parking eye did not accept my appeal, I dont want to pay £50 which will increase to £110 in 14 days ....I think its not fair to charge this, I am unemployed and cant afford this. What should I do any advice would be helpful?

HO87

hal81 wrote: »

I have been caught by parking eye for over staying at Aldi car park for 5 min, I didnt shop at Aldi as I had an appointment at a job centre close by and was running really late due to traffic. I was going to come back to Aldi after leaving the job center, but I realised I had overstayed my parking limit for 1 hour 20 min and decided not to go Aldi. Parking eye have now sent me a fine for over staying, I replied to parking eye and lied that I was shopping at Aldi and that I was aware of the parking limit and got delayed due to long queues at the till. I also told them that I paid for my shopping by cash an I dont have a receipt. However parking eye did not accept my appeal, I dont want to pay £50 which will increase to £110 in 14 days ....I think its not fair to charge this, I am unemployed and cant afford this. What should I do any advice would be helpful?

Unfortunately you have made two fundamental errors. Firstly in making contact with the parking company concerned and then lying to them. We neither condone the misuse of car parks - by not paying for those in which charges are properly levied - or giving them a false account.

If you ignore them for here on in they might just ignore you. It is to be hoped that they do. In the very unlikely event that they issue court proceedings then come back here for some guidance but if that does happen then lying further is going to raise the stakes to a level you will not want to become involved in - and no one here will advocate that you do so or guide you.

@Rufuslives - drafting the letter has probably allowed you to vent your spleen but I wouldn't bother sending it. It will be completely ignored and from that point of view will represent a waste of a stamp.

hal81

if it does go to court and I admit to not using Aldi for shopping and tell the truth will I have to pay allot more than £50?

Stephen_Leak

hal81 wrote: »

if it does go to court and I admit to not using Aldi for shopping and tell the truth will I have to pay allot more than £50?

It won't go to court.

Since the VCS vs. HMRC (Appeal) case in May, only the car park owner can offer parking and take alleged offenders to court. They won't want to get their hands dirty. That's why they use a private ticketing company.

VCS Parking Control vs. Ronald Ibbotson, S!!!!horpe, 2012 was the last time a private ticketing company took a driver to court. To say that the private ticketing company lost is an understatement. Click on the link and read the transcript.

interstellaflyer

@ rufuslives, as others have said, don't bother, if do choose to go against advice and send the letter anyway, I suggest you carefully proof read it first as it is full of mistakes such as no spaces between words.

taffy056

hal81 wrote: »

if it does go to court and I admit to not using Aldi for shopping and tell the truth will I have to pay allot more than £50?

It won't go to court, ignore them from here on in

taffy056

rufuslives

I wouldn't send it if I was you, just ignore them as its a lot more effective

rufuslives

Yes, there was a bit of cut and paste in that reply and I have corrected it in the actual document....as for not sending it? Yea fair enough...thought it might be fun! So its still the case that they're pretty much impotent despite their thinly veiled threats?

Coupon-mad

hal81 wrote: »

if it does go to court and I admit to not using Aldi for shopping and tell the truth will I have to pay allot more than £50?

It won't go to Court! You are not in any trouble for not using Aldi! You haven't even got a parking ticket there, it's a scam just like all the other cases on this forum. Just ignore the whole scam including the debt collector letters - play snap with them, simply match them against the pictures in our second-to-top thread 'PPC letter-chains'. It's easy to ignore this whole mail scam, I have done so twice and I am just an ordinary wife and Mum with a job that requires an enhanced CRB check, and I'm an ex Bank Manager so I wouldn't risk my credit record either. This scam is no threat to your credit rating at all.

And...who says you 'have' to shop at Aldi?

Not being funny, very often retail chains are not allowed to impose that requirement as their planning permission often extends to allowing local people to park and shop elsewhere (they hate it but it's true of many Supermarket car parks).

They tried that in Portslade and got sussed and Aldi were fined. LINKY.

Aldi then tried this year to sneak up some new signs at that same store, saying 'Aldi customers only'. Sussed again, shopped to the Council by a member here, and the signs were swiftly removed.





@rufuslives I wouldn't bother to send it personally. You will get a template 'appeal refused' reply!

I would COMPLAIN in writing to the onsite company/retailer though for allowing their agent to intimidate your mother. If it's a shop tell them that they have just lost her custom and that of her friends. Because strangely, a fake parking 'fine' and threats from a debt collector are not actually conducive to the 'customer service' ethic. :mad:


HTH