Suspended from job, advice needed

pickpocketlocket

Deinonychus wrote: »

This thread is asking for advice, so in what way will I not be told? If I have it totally wrong, explain it rather than being rude. I read it over and over. So did my wife. I am just explaining it how we understand it (how it is written in black and white)

Whilst marybelle01 was rather blunt, her understanding is correct. The paragraph you quoted is the exception to the rule - your situation is not the exception.

marybelle01

Deinonychus wrote: »

This thread is asking for advice, so in what way will I not be told? If I have it totally wrong, explain it rather than being rude. I read it over and over. So did my wife. I am just explaining it how we understand it (how it is written in black and white)

You have insisted and insisted and insisted - despite people telling you otherwise - that your interpretation of a couple of paragraphs is correct. That is not asking for advice - it is being blind to the advice you are being given. Two vlauses do make make the whole of the guidance. If you resign in the face of a disciplinary for misconduct then the DWP treat that as an admission of misconduct and treat it in the same way as if you had been dismissed. Three people have told you that, and you simply keep repeating the same thing over. So telling yor that you are deluding yourself is not "rude" - it's a fact.

Deinonychus_2

Ok so I have it all wrong? All I want is to be sure that my family has some income while I am looking for work. I really was lead to believe by the union rep, and by many things online since researching that quitting is the better option. Hmm.

I wasn't the first suspended so I doubt I will be the first to get the disciplinary (although one has already quit). I am actually hoping to see how others disciplinary hearings go first. If they get sacked or not. There are talks of even more people being suspended and there are some new hires as well. So I don't imagine this will end soon. But in the mean time I (and others) am suspended with pay. I am not taking this lightly at all. Hence why I made this thread seeking advice. I just want to do the best given the bad situation.

pickpocketlocket

Deinonychus wrote: »

Ok so I have it all wrong? All I want is to be sure that my family has some income while I am looking for work. I really was lead to believe by the union rep, and by many things online since researching that quitting is the better option. Hmm.

I wasn't the first suspended so I doubt I will be the first to get the disciplinary (although one has already quit). I am actually hoping to see how others disciplinary hearings go first. If they get sacked or not. There are talks of even more people being suspended and there are some new hires as well. So I don't imagine this will end soon. But in the mean time I (and others) am suspended with pay. I am not taking this lightly at all. Hence why I made this thread seeking advice. I just want to do the best given the bad situation.

The para you quoted is correct in the right context, it just doesn't apply to your situation.

We cannot tell you whether to resign or not, that really has to be your decision. However you need to be sure that the information you use to make your decision is accurate, and we can help with that.

Deinonychus_2

marybelle01 wrote: »

You have insisted and insisted and insisted - despite people telling you otherwise - that your interpretation of a couple of paragraphs is correct. That is not asking for advice - it is being blind to the advice you are being given. Two vlauses do make make the whole of the guidance. If you resign in the face of a disciplinary for misconduct then the DWP treat that as an admission of misconduct and treat it in the same way as if you had been dismissed. Three people have told you that, and you simply keep repeating the same thing over. So telling yor that you are deluding yourself is not "rude" - it's a fact.

I never insisted anything. If I have truly believed that I understood what I read then I was just stating that I hadn't misunderstood (which I am still confused how I have). Calling a misunderstanding a delusion is rude. Please, if you have nothing constructive to add, leave the thread. I really don't want an online fight when I am stressed about things.

Deinonychus_2

pickpocketlocket wrote: »

The para you quoted is correct in the right context, it just doesn't apply to your situation.

We cannot tell you whether to resign or not, that really has to be your decision. However you need to be sure that the information you use to make your decision is accurate, and we can help with that.

Well, can we get back to the OP and have some help with links and such on the subject to facilitate me in this decision. Thanks :beer:

pickpocketlocket

Deinonychus wrote: »

Well, can we get back to the OP and have some help with links and such on the subject to facilitate me in this decision. Thanks :beer:

In terms of benefits, you have found the information that you need, you have just misunderstood it - the paragraph you are relying on relates to situations where someone is dismissed for no good reason, where there may be grounds for a claim for constructive dismissal.

Do you have any more specific questions? In terms of benefit entitlement, does your wife work, and do you rent or have a mortgage? Even if you are sanctioned, you may still receive some payment.

Deinonychus_2

As it happens, I do have concerns regarding mortgage, credit card and loan payment. I know I am entitled to full council tax benefit but am unsure what else, if anything.
My wife doesn't work and cannot as a breastfeeding mother of an infant. Also she gets no benefits, due to being a US citizen, with indefinite leave to remain in the UK, who has never worked in the UK, therefore made no NI contributions.

Sambucus_Nigra

Deinonychus wrote: »

I DID sign training material at induction and later on during shopfloor standards training, stating that under no circumstance should food be consumed from the shopfloor, warehouse or canteen without paying for said item(s).

Can I ask why on earth you decided then, to go against 2 documents that stated this? It seems completely ludicrous to risk your job when you have signed TWICE to say you understood this.

Deinonychus_2

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Can I ask why on earth you decided then, to go against 2 documents that stated this? It seems completely ludicrous to risk your job when you have signed TWICE to say you understood this.

No you can't ask.