Cyclists without lights

PasturesNew

Raksha wrote: »

If he'd been cycling (or walking) the right way down the carriageway, surely they'd have been on his right?

You walk towards the oncoming traffic; you cycle with the traffic. Different sides of the road, depending on whether you're walking or cycling.

Tilt

Idiophreak wrote: »

It's an interesting case. I wonder if it matters that he was on a bike. If he was just walking along the side of the road, would she still have been blameless?

I'm guessing that this is the stretch of road where it happened. If it is, the sign on the left answers your question.

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=A10,+London&hl=en&ll=51.809941,-0.051713&spn=0.018281,0.045447&sll=52.8382,-2.327815&sspn=9.096682,23.269043&oq=a10&hnear=A10,+London,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=51.809813,-0.051675&panoid=OXWWDcPPVu1unxbWQs2sHA&cbp=12,153.45,,1,-2.51

Tilt

Raksha wrote: »

IIRC the main injuries to the cyclist were on his left side. If he'd been cycling (or walking) the right way down the carriageway, surely they'd have been on his right?

Here in Milton Keynes a man was killed last year because he was walking on a dual carriageway where the lights had been turned off for cost saving. He was over the limit. Only a couple of weeks ago, I narrowly missed hitting a pedestrian who was also walking on an unlight dual carriageway. There but for the grace of God......

Not if he was propelled into the barrier in the near side... see the link above.

PasturesNew

Tilt wrote: »

I'm guessing that this is the stretch of road where it happened. If it is, the sign on the left answers your question.

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=A10,+London&hl=en&ll=51.809941,-0.051713&spn=0.018281,0.045447&sll=52.8382,-2.327815&sspn=9.096682,23.269043&oq=a10&hnear=A10,+London,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=51.809813,-0.051675&panoid=OXWWDcPPVu1unxbWQs2sHA&cbp=12,153.45,,1,-2.51

How many people would know what that sign meant??? Especially pedestrians who don't need to get a license and pass a test to walk places.

Takeaway_Addict

snozberry wrote: »

Nah, not at all. You need to remember that there are people out there who do follow rules and regulations.

I'll hold my hands up, I have hit an animal and not reported it because I didn't realise I needed to....

Idiophreak

Tilt wrote: »

I'm guessing that this is the stretch of road where it happened. If it is, the sign on the left answers your question.

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=A10,+London&hl=en&ll=51.809941,-0.051713&spn=0.018281,0.045447&sll=52.8382,-2.327815&sspn=9.096682,23.269043&oq=a10&hnear=A10,+London,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=51.809813,-0.051675&panoid=OXWWDcPPVu1unxbWQs2sHA&cbp=12,153.45,,1,-2.51

So, if someone's not whether they're supposed to be, you can knock them down and kill them without any fear of repercussions? Good to know...

Tilt

PasturesNew wrote: »

How many people would know what that sign meant??? Especially pedestrians who don't need to get a license and pass a test to walk places.

I believe ignorance of the law is no excuse. Besides, who in their right mind would walk along that stretch of road in pitch darkness?

Tilt

Idiophreak wrote: »

So, if someone's not whether they're supposed to be, you can knock them down and kill them without any fear of repercussions? Good to know...

Ridiculous comment! There always has to be one!

Idiophreak

PasturesNew wrote: »

Bought my bike from Halfords and they only offered me a post-seat light, which I pointed out wouldn't work because they'd had to remove part of the post fitment to get the seat low enough for me to be able to reach the ground on tip-toe. They couldn't offer me a proper light that fitted anywhere else....

So I can't take my bike out after dark until I find a light that can be fitted, find somewhere to buy it/have it fitted... and get round to it.

I'm afraid using Halfords was your big mistake. For a starts, it seems like they sold you a bike with too large a frame, so you'll probably find cycling harder than needs be.

Then they couldn't offer you a light that fitted anywhere else? Pretty much all rear lights I've seen come with fittings both for the seatpost and for the seat stays. I'd suggest popping into any local bike shop and they'll sort you out with a light, no problems.

System

Tilt wrote: »

As for failing to stop... I think the offence is committed if you do not report an accident within 24 hours. In this case the driver rang the police within half an hour of it happening and she believed she had hit an animal. .

She believed that she hit an animal. Providing she believed it wasn't one of the animals in para 8 below then there is no requirement to stop or even report it

Sect 170 of RTA 1988

(1)This section applies in a case where, owing to the presence of a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road or other public place, an accident occurs by which—
(a)personal injury is caused to a person other than the driver of that mechanically propelled vehicle, or
(b)damage is caused—
(i)to a vehicle other than that mechanically propelled vehicle or a trailer drawn by that mechanically propelled vehicle, or
(ii)to an animal other than an animal in or on that mechanically propelled vehicle or a trailer drawn by that mechanically propelled vehicle, or
(iii)to any other property constructed on, fixed to, growing in or otherwise forming part of the land on which the road F3or place in question is situated or land adjacent to such land.
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(8) in this section “animal” means horse, cattle, !!!, mule, sheep, pig, goat or dog.