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Small hole drilled for in worktop for plumbing; is it likely to affect the deposit?
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This is only my interpretation of the situation with my LL and it may be different depending on your own contract.
Most not all LLs are reasonable if you offer to fix what you have damaged before they have found out themselves. If the place is shabby then the LL will expect people to damage things.
I suggest you inform your LL of the hole and say you will get a tradesman to fix it before you leave. Make sure you leave enough time for him/her to check it. (If the LL has an agent try and contact the LL direct rather than go through the agent.)
There is no need to mention the tradesman is your dad unless specifically asked if they are a relation.
In the past I've broken a window and didn't end up paying because I fessed up to the landlord and offered to pay for it.I'm not cynical I'm realistic
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What you could do
1: Thank your dad for his helpful idea and ask him to come and help you fit a new matching worktop!
2: Find an "Arkwrights" to find a sympathetic coloured grommet that you can plug the hole with -imagine a mushroom shape- and leave a cookie jar near them.
3: Leave the kitchen (and oven) spotless - 1950's hospital clean-so they do not notice or look too closely and spot 2
The law is pretty clear that you are only going to have to pay for the cost of the worn down work top ie current replacement cost less current condition. But given the contractors cost of installation purchasing a new one might be an idea, if you think you and Dad can fit it well.Stop! Think. Read the small print. Trust nothing and assume that it is your responsibility. That way it rarely goes wrong.
Actively hunting down the person who invented the imaginary tenure, "share freehold"; if you can show me one I will produce my daughter's unicorn0 -
I still haven't seen where the OP has stated WHY they didn't ask permission first?! Barmy!!0
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MentalMinnie wrote: »I still haven't seen where the OP has stated WHY they didn't ask permission first?! Barmy!!
You have to start with the title of this thread - "small hole". Umm, nope, it's a bloody great big hole.
Apparently, dad told them it would be okay.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
If it's their first time living away from home then they're probably pretty young and naive. And faced with dad saying it'd be fine and it was the only way of doing things, they probably just went along with it and didn't realise till later what a hole they'd been left in (really bad pun intended).
It's pretty hard to break the 'daddy knows best' thing and takes a while. I'd also hazard a guess that the dad in this case is like mine, who knows nothing about the reality of renting and landlords, and would have looked at the kitchen as a homeowner and said 'but they'll be replacing it anyway since it's so knackered'. Whereas to a lot of landlords (and owners, for that matter), don't see having a high quality up to date kitchen is a necessity.
Although I agree they should have asked permission first!Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.0 -
If it's their first time living away from home then they're probably pretty young and naive. And faced with dad saying it'd be fine and it was the only way of doing things, they probably just went along with it and didn't realise till later what a hole they'd been left in (really bad pun intended).
It's pretty hard to break the 'daddy knows best' thing and takes a while. I'd also hazard a guess that the dad in this case is like mine, who knows nothing about the reality of renting and landlords, and would have looked at the kitchen as a homeowner and said 'but they'll be replacing it anyway since it's so knackered'. Whereas to a lot of landlords (and owners, for that matter), don't see having a high quality up to date kitchen is a necessity.
Although I agree they should have asked permission first!
It won't just be the hole in the worktop will it? dad will have cut into the hot and cold pipes to supply a feed top the dishwasher. Probably left a couple of taps on the wall behind the dishwasher. These will need to be made good, pipes repainted etc.
Actually, come to think of it, BY FAR the cheapest way to deal with this is to offer the dishwasher to the landlord as a freebie on condition that he accepts the changes that have been made to accommodate it. You never know - he might be happy with that.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
Don't know if someone else has mentioned - but did you get a full inventory co-signed when you moved in, and if so, did it explicitly mention the state of the worktop (i.e. as new/some scratches etc etc), as if not, then you might be OK as LL cannot deduct without proof you did the damage in the form of an pre and post inventory.0
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Don't know if someone else has mentioned - but did you get a full inventory co-signed when you moved in, and if so, did it explicitly mention the state of the worktop (i.e. as new/some scratches etc etc), as if not, then you might be OK as LL cannot deduct without proof you did the damage in the form of an pre and post inventory.
Are you suggesting that, if asked about the hole, they should lie?No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
Judith_W - OP has already said that s/he accepts that s/he/Dad has effectively damaged the LLs property and that they are willing to rectify the matter. AFAIAA the OP was merely seeking guidance on not getting caught out by the LL potentially seeking betterment.0
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Really? The LL may well have a different view on what constitutes "shabby" but, either way, a T should always seek written consent *before* drilling into the LLs property.Most not all LLs are reasonable if you offer to fix what you have damaged before they have found out themselves. If the place is shabby then the LL will expect people to damage things.0
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