JSA stopped - appealing

Anubis_2

recoverydust wrote: »

You can ring and ask for a reconsideration by a decision maker. They can do the same with ESA refusal before it goes to appeal. You will need to be persistent and ask for a call back if necessary. It helps if a "professional" rings for you.
This is NOT fair and increasingly benefit support agencies are hearing of underhand ways that people are being sanctioned. There is a lot of pressure on the staff and the JCP unions are vocal about the invidious position staff are put in.
Put your case calmy, explain as you have here and you are likely to get a result. Let us know how it goes
As for the other - you need to ask the DWP for clarification, their letters are notoriously badly put.
Assuming that you are unemployed, dont live with a wage earner and have no more than £6000 and are looking for work then you are entitled to £71 for as long as it takes you to get a job, go training, emigrate or just sign off cos its naff.
You are entitled to contributory benefit for six months irrespective of financial situation more or less, so long as you have the correct range of NI payments
good luck

Someone posted on here a few weeks or so ago who I believe works for the JC, that JC staff have "sanction" targets to meet - in other words they are told rhey have to sanction x amount of claimants per week/month.

Not sure just how much of this is true, but it seems plausible. I think this sanction appears to be unfair and should definitely be appealed.

missapril75

Anubis wrote: »

Someone posted on here a few weeks or so ago who I believe works for the JC, that JC staff have "sanction" targets to meet - in other words they are told rhey have to sanction x amount of claimants per week/month.

Not sure just how much of this is true,

I imagine it's 100% accurate.

When I was there we had targets for: number of interviews done (obviously people not keeping appointments is staff fault); job vacancy referrals; training referrals; ESOL referrals; (so if you happen to see people for whom there aren't many jobs, you either refer inappropriately or fail targets) job starts (as if you can influence whether an employer employs someone) and many other things.

There weren't sanction targets for us, but I'd bet there are now.
I just had to find some targets I could meet to cover myself.

I met interview targets by taking urgent repeat claims - but it was rushed and you couldn't get any referrals for other targets (but at least I helped people get claims going) and I met job vacancy referrals because every few days there was someone happy to have details of 16 or 17 call centre jobs, many of which would probably have been covered by one phone call, so the lot probably involved 4 or 5 applications.

Just to illustrate the idiocy of the system, sometimes the only way you could meet targets for referrals for courses for English as a second language was by referring English speaking JSA applicants. :rotfl:

sniggings

missapril75 wrote: »

I imagine it's 100% accurate.

When I was there we had targets for: number of interviews done (obviously people not keeping appointments is staff fault); job vacancy referrals; training referrals; ESOL referrals; (so if you happen to see people for whom there aren't many jobs, you either refer inappropriately or fail targets) job starts (as if you can influence whether an employer employs someone) and many other things.

There weren't sanction targets for us, but I'd bet there are now.
I just had to find some targets I could meet to cover myself.

I met interview targets by taking urgent repeat claims - but it was rushed and you couldn't get any referrals for other targets (but at least I helped people get claims going) and I met job vacancy referrals because every few days there was someone happy to have details of 16 or 17 call centre jobs, many of which would probably have been covered by one phone call, so the lot probably involved 4 or 5 applications.

Just to illustrate the idiocy of the system, sometimes the only way you could meet targets for referrals for courses for English as a second language was by referring English speaking JSA applicants. :rotfl:

So have you now left? was the pay decent for this type of job? Not sure I could refer someone for something they are unsuitable for.